View Poll Results: What is Pinnacle's fate?
Pinnacle will negotiate better rates and nothing happens.



28
24.35%
Pinnacle can't reach an agreement with United and it parks the Q's and Saabs.



53
46.09%
My above theory. Or something very similar.



11
9.57%
Your theory which is completely different.



23
20.00%
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Pinnacle, Mesaba, Colgan's future. Poll
#51
Funny to watch people who mocked Manswers, suddenly become jealous of him. In a week or so he'll be having overnights in Vegas with hot young FA's, while you'll be doing Moline RR's with 9E's finest.
VA hasn't made much profit but they also have a solid backing of venture financing, and a great product. Pinnacle has neither, just a failed business model and a huge fleet of obsolete aircraft.
VA hasn't made much profit but they also have a solid backing of venture financing, and a great product. Pinnacle has neither, just a failed business model and a huge fleet of obsolete aircraft.
#52
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And no, I'm not 9Easy that you quoted.
#53
#54
Funny to watch people who mocked Manswers, suddenly become jealous of him. In a week or so he'll be having overnights in Vegas with hot young FA's, while you'll be doing Moline RR's with 9E's finest.
VA hasn't made much profit but they also have a solid backing of venture financing, and a great product. Pinnacle has neither, just a failed business model and a huge fleet of obsolete aircraft.
VA hasn't made much profit but they also have a solid backing of venture financing, and a great product. Pinnacle has neither, just a failed business model and a huge fleet of obsolete aircraft.
This is truly classic.
But wait coping Jetblues business model also may not work for VX.
Vegas overnights. Ha ha ha ha. Classic.
#55
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#56
Colgan is in a unique situation because they are the only large Q400 operator. It would take a lot of time and money to start a new Q400 operation at another carrier (or expand their current one). Also, I doubt any carrier would match our current price. If a CRJ or 145 operator tries to get more money from United, it would not be too difficult for United to give that flying to another RJ operator.
In the end it does not matter. Our fate was decided a long time ago and nothing we can do can change the outcome. In the end we lose. SM is not going to surprise us and announce he was joking and we are getting 15 more Qs and everything will be fine. If we do get more aircraft I am sure it will come with some sucker-punch to offset any possible positive outcome for the pilot group. Remember, management has a lot more control than us and they nearly always get what they want. A win for any pilot group is usually just maintain the status quo, or an outcome that ends up being slightly better than it could have been. We mare merely pawns fighting a lopsided battle.
#57
Not sure how you deduce me to somebody I'm not. I'm hardly the only disappointed FO at 9E. Ruin a reputation? Why would say that. The ones who have ruined reputations are the ones who sold out Pinnacle pilots, both in management and union. All I've done is call out the crap and BS that has happened at this airline. If that angers you, then blame those who got us to where we are. Not my fault if you can't handle the truth.
And no, I'm not 9Easy that you quoted.
And no, I'm not 9Easy that you quoted.
p.s. Your activity on the Virgin thread on this site also screams your identity. Bow out, you made it out alive.
#58
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Joined: Nov 2008
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From: Citation, left seat
I wouldn't also call VX pillar of financial stability. VX has a higher chance of playing a vanishing act then Pinnacle. Has VX ever posted a profit?
Just because your sitting in an Airbus rather then an RJ now your overall position hasn't really changed.
VX pay is also well... By no means much to brag about.
Just because your sitting in an Airbus rather then an RJ now your overall position hasn't really changed.
VX pay is also well... By no means much to brag about.
#59
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It doesn't take Sherlock Holmes to figure it out. You just admitted who you are with this post. How did you know I was referring to ShyGuy in my response to 9easy. By mentioning Virgin in my post I got your attention and you only outed yourself by responding. Let it go "manswer." Remember, the dealer always gets blackjack and NEVER put all your chips on red. I wish you the best of the luck, honestly.
p.s. Your activity on the Virgin thread on this site also screams your identity. Bow out, you made it out alive.
p.s. Your activity on the Virgin thread on this site also screams your identity. Bow out, you made it out alive.
Last edited by ShyGuy; 03-10-2012 at 05:15 PM.
#60
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I'm sorry but...are you on crack? Pinnacle is a sinking ship. I say this as a Pinnacle employee.
Question, if I have a chance to go somewhere I can get abused for the same pay and a quick upgrade resulting in even more schedule abuse, is it worth the turbine pic time to bail? I keep going back and fourth on this.
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