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MunkyButtr 03-10-2012 09:33 AM


Originally Posted by 9easy (Post 1149205)
Funny to watch people who mocked Manswers, suddenly become jealous of him. In a week or so he'll be having overnights in Vegas with hot young FA's, while you'll be doing Moline RR's with 9E's finest.

VA hasn't made much profit but they also have a solid backing of venture financing, and a great product. Pinnacle has neither, just a failed business model and a huge fleet of obsolete aircraft.

You aren't fooling anyone with the split personallity act. Enjoy Virgin, I'm sure they have a message board you can use to ruin your reputation there as well.

ShyGuy 03-10-2012 11:41 AM


Originally Posted by MunkyButtr (Post 1149266)
You aren't fooling anyone with the split personallity act. Enjoy Virgin, I'm sure they have a message board you can use to ruin your reputation there as well.

Not sure how you deduce me to somebody I'm not. I'm hardly the only disappointed FO at 9E. Ruin a reputation? Why would say that. The ones who have ruined reputations are the ones who sold out Pinnacle pilots, both in management and union. All I've done is call out the crap and BS that has happened at this airline. If that angers you, then blame those who got us to where we are. Not my fault if you can't handle the truth.

And no, I'm not 9Easy that you quoted.

AxialFlow 03-10-2012 02:29 PM


Originally Posted by Fly782 (Post 1149194)
So back to this topic. Why do majority feel the Qs will be parked as well? Onviously the Saabs will be.

My guess is that if United renegotiated the contract, they'd be opening the door for their other codeshare partners to come back and ask for the same.

PCLCREW 03-10-2012 03:01 PM


Funny to watch people who mocked Manswers, suddenly become jealous of him. In a week or so he'll be having overnights in Vegas with hot young FA's, while you'll be doing Moline RR's with 9E's finest.

VA hasn't made much profit but they also have a solid backing of venture financing, and a great product. Pinnacle has neither, just a failed business model and a huge fleet of obsolete aircraft.
No this is getting really funny. 2 screen names and calling yourself manswers.
This is truly classic.
But wait coping Jetblues business model also may not work for VX.
Vegas overnights. Ha ha ha ha. Classic.

Fly782 03-10-2012 03:16 PM


Originally Posted by AxialFlow (Post 1149409)
My guess is that if United renegotiated the contract, they'd be opening the door for their other codeshare partners to come back and ask for the same.

Well that sucks. I keep hearing they are safe...:confused:

2StgTurbine 03-10-2012 03:47 PM


Originally Posted by AxialFlow (Post 1149409)
My guess is that if United renegotiated the contract, they'd be opening the door for their other codeshare partners to come back and ask for the same.

Others could, but they would have to prove to United that they are on the verge of bankruptcy which would cause their stock to drop.

Colgan is in a unique situation because they are the only large Q400 operator. It would take a lot of time and money to start a new Q400 operation at another carrier (or expand their current one). Also, I doubt any carrier would match our current price. If a CRJ or 145 operator tries to get more money from United, it would not be too difficult for United to give that flying to another RJ operator.

In the end it does not matter. Our fate was decided a long time ago and nothing we can do can change the outcome. In the end we lose. SM is not going to surprise us and announce he was joking and we are getting 15 more Qs and everything will be fine. If we do get more aircraft I am sure it will come with some sucker-punch to offset any possible positive outcome for the pilot group. Remember, management has a lot more control than us and they nearly always get what they want. A win for any pilot group is usually just maintain the status quo, or an outcome that ends up being slightly better than it could have been. We mare merely pawns fighting a lopsided battle.

MunkyButtr 03-10-2012 03:48 PM


Originally Posted by ShyGuy (Post 1149327)
Not sure how you deduce me to somebody I'm not. I'm hardly the only disappointed FO at 9E. Ruin a reputation? Why would say that. The ones who have ruined reputations are the ones who sold out Pinnacle pilots, both in management and union. All I've done is call out the crap and BS that has happened at this airline. If that angers you, then blame those who got us to where we are. Not my fault if you can't handle the truth.

And no, I'm not 9Easy that you quoted.

It doesn't take Sherlock Holmes to figure it out. You just admitted who you are with this post. How did you know I was referring to ShyGuy in my response to 9easy. By mentioning Virgin in my post I got your attention and you only outed yourself by responding. Let it go "manswer." Remember, the dealer always gets blackjack and NEVER put all your chips on red. I wish you the best of the luck, honestly.

p.s. Your activity on the Virgin thread on this site also screams your identity. Bow out, you made it out alive.

Skypilotsv1984 03-10-2012 03:57 PM


Originally Posted by PCLCREW (Post 1149061)
I wouldn't also call VX pillar of financial stability. VX has a higher chance of playing a vanishing act then Pinnacle. Has VX ever posted a profit?
Just because your sitting in an Airbus rather then an RJ now your overall position hasn't really changed.
VX pay is also well... By no means much to brag about.

I'm sorry but...are you on crack? Pinnacle is a sinking ship. I say this as a Pinnacle employee.

ShyGuy 03-10-2012 05:05 PM


Originally Posted by PCLCREW (Post 1149422)
No this is getting really funny. 2 screen names and calling yourself manswers.
This is truly classic.
But wait coping Jetblues business model also may not work for VX.
Vegas overnights. Ha ha ha ha. Classic.

I assure you I have one screen name, and this name only. I have no reason to create a fake user name, nor would I ever want to disclose my real name. I don't need multiple screen names to call out things the way I see them. 9easy is somebody else, if you are really interested, then find an IP tracker and you can confirm for yourself that I have only one name that I post under.


It doesn't take Sherlock Holmes to figure it out. You just admitted who you are with this post. How did you know I was referring to ShyGuy in my response to 9easy. By mentioning Virgin in my post I got your attention and you only outed yourself by responding. Let it go "manswer." Remember, the dealer always gets blackjack and NEVER put all your chips on red. I wish you the best of the luck, honestly.

p.s. Your activity on the Virgin thread on this site also screams your identity. Bow out, you made it out alive.
I responded to you because you made the public assumption that I was 9easy and that I had a split personality act. I have never had any other screen name here. I don't know who 9easy is, and it isn't my concern. You made the assumption. If you really don't have a life, go download an IP tracker and confirm for yourself that I am not who you think I am.

CrakPipeOvrheat 03-10-2012 05:09 PM


I'm sorry but...are you on crack? Pinnacle is a sinking ship. I say this as a Pinnacle employee.
I've been told people think more clearly on crack and can operate machinery better.

Question, if I have a chance to go somewhere I can get abused for the same pay and a quick upgrade resulting in even more schedule abuse, is it worth the turbine pic time to bail? I keep going back and fourth on this.


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