Pilot impersonates Federal Agent
03-16-2012, 05:51 PM
#182
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Joined APC: Jan 2008
Position: blueJet
Posts: 4,519
Originally Posted by dingo222
I can see him now..."Son of a bytsch, three months go by and I thought I was out of the woods. Then someone posts my article on APC and in two days my fake internet life is ruined."
"Now I'll have to actually go to a bar to get some tail. At least I learned some prison CRM during my week in the joint."
03-16-2012, 07:42 PM
#185
New boss = Old boss
Joined APC: Mar 2005
Position: Ca B737
Posts: 2,762
Originally Posted by rickair7777
Absolutely true. Mike374's concept of a "citizen's arrest" is totally out to lunch.
The rules vary by state (look yours up if you plan on exercising said authority) but generally you can only make a citizens arrest in the case of felony, and I believe in some states only if life or limb is in danger. A citizen's arrest for a traffic violation would more likely turn out to be assault, unlawful detention, maybe kidnapping. And if you shoot someone in some states you are guilty until proven innocent...
The rules vary by state (look yours up if you plan on exercising said authority) but generally you can only make a citizens arrest in the case of felony, and I believe in some states only if life or limb is in danger. A citizen's arrest for a traffic violation would more likely turn out to be assault, unlawful detention, maybe kidnapping. And if you shoot someone in some states you are guilty until proven innocent...
My other point is that anyone can perform a citizens arrest IF, IF it turns out you saved a life or something on that order. It doesn't matter if it's technically illegal. Jungle pointed out that an officer in Florida would be wrong to make an arrest outside his jurisdiction. I'm sure he's right. So what? I doubt he would be prosecuted especially if his "arrest" resulted in the capture of a wanted criminal. I still don't know why Reynolds wanted to pull over the driver. What ever the reason the real officers didn't think he was justified. If they had this story would be different.
Was Reynolds out of his jurisdiction? No question. Was he justified in trying to arrest the guy? Sounds like, of course not. Is he well known as a tool in this small aviation world? Apparently.
Even if he gets convicted and goes to jail, will he lose his certificates? I don't think so. The two are not related. Yes an ATP has to be of good moral blah blah blah....He's going to keep his license (or get one some day). Also, he won't be fired from wherever he works for this offense but he may have a tough time passing his rides in the future.
Oh, and one more thing. FFDOs ARE Federal Agents (and officers). They are volunteer and have very limited power but they are trained and commissioned by the Federal Government for a specific job. They do their job on behalf of the government (agent) in an attempt to prevent another 9/11. I hope they never have to do their job.
03-16-2012, 08:29 PM
#186
With The Resistance
Joined APC: Jan 2006
Position: Burning the Agitprop of the Apparat
Posts: 6,191
Originally Posted by mike734
My other point is that anyone can perform a citizens arrest IF, IF it turns out you saved a life or something on that order. It doesn't matter if it's technically illegal. Jungle pointed out that an officer in Florida would be wrong to make an arrest outside his jurisdiction. I'm sure he's right. So what? I doubt he would be prosecuted especially if his "arrest" resulted in the capture of a wanted criminal. I still don't know why Reynolds wanted to pull over the driver. What ever the reason the real officers didn't think he was justified. If they had this story would be different.
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On the other hand, just keep on saving lives by stopping that odd swerve wherever you may detect it, I'm sure you will capture a wanted criminal someday, but I bet you get caught first.
03-16-2012, 09:06 PM
#187
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Joined APC: Jun 2009
Position: http://rahcontractnow.org/
Posts: 206
Originally Posted by mike734
My other point is that anyone can perform a citizens arrest IF, IF it turns out you saved a life or something on that order. It doesn't matter if it's technically illegal. Jungle pointed out that an officer in Florida would be wrong to make an arrest outside his jurisdiction. I'm sure he's right. So what? I doubt he would be prosecuted especially if his "arrest" resulted in the capture of a wanted criminal. I still don't know why Reynolds wanted to pull over the driver. What ever the reason the real officers didn't think he was justified. If they had this story would be different.
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