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Old 04-02-2012, 10:09 AM
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It doesn't matter much anyway. When the very senior ATL900 base closes and displaces into the CR2, considering the quotas on the jet side, there won't be that many 9L guys who will be able to hold any CA slot on a jet. Hopefully it will motivate people to seek greener pastures.
Quotas decrease when the airplanes leave property so 9E guys will have even fewer Captain slots available to them. The group that will make out the best is the former XJ pilot group as they aren't loosing any airplanes that affect their quotas. Although they already lost a lot of slots when they lost their Saabs. No real way around it. We are all getting screwed. See you in the unemployment line.
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Old 04-02-2012, 12:35 PM
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Old 04-02-2012, 12:39 PM
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Looks like the q400s are going to another United operator.....

Bankrupt U.S. airline owes Crown Corp. $690M - CBC Business Bankrupt U.S. airline owes Crown Corp. $690M - Business - CBC News
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Old 04-02-2012, 12:56 PM
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Looks like the q400s are going to another United operator.....

Bankrupt U.S. airline owes Crown Corp. $690M - CBC Business Bankrupt U.S. airline owes Crown Corp. $690M - Business - CBC News
That article was written for Canada, the company is trying to make it look like tax payer money is not in jeopardy in this deal. I don't know if I believe it, is United going to offer the next company a better deal than they offered 9E? One wouldn't think so. How would the transition of flying work? If they can cover the flying while it is in transition you would think they would just continue to cover the flying that way. Here's an idea, United should by some 100 seaters and have United pilots fly them.
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Old 04-02-2012, 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by 9easy View Post
It doesn't matter much anyway. When the very senior ATL900 base closes and displaces into the CR2, considering the quotas on the jet side, there won't be that many 9L guys who will be able to hold any CA slot on a jet. Hopefully it will motivate people to seek greener pastures.
I dont know if you have actually read the Bloch award or not but the quota's/fences are only in place for 5 years after the award. The award has been out for nearly a year already.
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Old 04-02-2012, 01:14 PM
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I dont know if you have actually read the Bloch award or not but the quota's/fences are only in place for 5 years after the award. The award has been out for nearly a year already.
I'm wondering if this place will be around in 5 years. Performance is going to be a huge issue in the next few months - just like it was at Mesa. The show is now run by Delta, I'm betting they will find a way to wiggle out of the 200s when the time is right. If 9E doesn't find new flying fences won't matter, you might never get a chance to upgrade here.
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Old 04-02-2012, 01:15 PM
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survival of the fittest, my friend.
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Old 04-02-2012, 01:17 PM
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It is amazing that people are talking about fence issues, 4.5 years down the road, when this company could (probably) be stripped to nothing.

Bigger problems ahead for this airline, not just about old airline vs old airline
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Old 04-02-2012, 03:08 PM
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I hate to agree with anyone...ever.... while I am not in support of an out of seniority furlough, how is this any less fair than an out of longevity furlough?? I don't see how anyone can support anything other than date of hire across the board. Its going to be a long road for us all.
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Originally Posted by jayray View Post
I'm wondering if this place will be around in 5 years. Performance is going to be a huge issue in the next few months - just like it was at Mesa. The show is now run by Delta, I'm betting they will find a way to wiggle out of the 200s when the time is right. If 9E doesn't find new flying fences won't matter, you might never get a chance to upgrade here.

Exactly. Also keep in mind the creditors committee does not have to follow management's plan. They can come up with one of their own, or accept a competing bid from the outside. For the creditors it is all about getting as much of their money back as they can....

The fact that we had to go begging to Mother Delta for a loan because no bank would lend us any money does not bode well for our future.....
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