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Old 04-02-2012 | 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by jayray
I'm wondering if this place will be around in 5 years. Performance is going to be a huge issue in the next few months - just like it was at Mesa. The show is now run by Delta, I'm betting they will find a way to wiggle out of the 200s when the time is right. If 9E doesn't find new flying fences won't matter, you might never get a chance to upgrade here.

Exactly. Also keep in mind the creditors committee does not have to follow management's plan. They can come up with one of their own, or accept a competing bid from the outside. For the creditors it is all about getting as much of their money back as they can....

The fact that we had to go begging to Mother Delta for a loan because no bank would lend us any money does not bode well for our future.....
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Old 04-02-2012 | 04:39 PM
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You make the assumption I want to go to the majors lol.
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Old 04-02-2012 | 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by johnso29
Not all airlines require 1000 PIC turbine.
You're assuming I want to go to the majors lol.
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Old 04-02-2012 | 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by anthony210
I dont know if you have actually read the Bloch award or not but the quota's/fences are only in place for 5 years after the award. The award has been out for nearly a year already.
The Bloch award can/may be tossed in Ch.11 it may all go away. The award deals with normal displacements, but not CH11 filings.

I'm not planning on sticking around to find out though.
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Old 04-02-2012 | 04:48 PM
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Time to change professions..... How hard is it to become a doctor?
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Old 04-02-2012 | 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by CriticalMach
Time to change professions..... How hard is it to become a doctor?
Think of all the doctors that have crashed bonanzas/barons/etc and you tell me which is harder
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Old 04-02-2012 | 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by mooney
Think of all the doctors that have crashed bonanzas/barons/etc and you tell me which is harder
Think of how many of our idiots would probably crash those same bonanzas/barons/etc. Somedays I wonder.
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Old 04-02-2012 | 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by jayray
That article was written for Canada, the company is trying to make it look like tax payer money is not in jeopardy in this deal. I don't know if I believe it, is United going to offer the next company a better deal than they offered 9E? One wouldn't think so. How would the transition of flying work? If they can cover the flying while it is in transition you would think they would just continue to cover the flying that way. Here's an idea, United should by some 100 seaters and have United pilots fly them.
Good luck with that, they just dumped all there 737-500's... They are well on the same path as Delta. Get rid of anything not at least transcon. Outsource everything below to about 70 seats, dump the cities that can't support at least that.
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Old 04-02-2012 | 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by BIGRIG
Think of how many of our idiots would probably crash those same bonanzas/barons/etc. Somedays I wonder.
Are we talking executives or line pilots?
I bet Trenary, Lorenzo, Icahan, Wolfe, Gangwal, Skeen, Trump, Ray, Ect.... All would have been so much better. This industry is rife with jackholes looking to steal and run. There is a reason the joke goes how do you get a million dollars in aviation? Start with a billion.

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Old 04-02-2012 | 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by tuckntruck
The Bloch award can/may be tossed in Ch.11 it may all go away. The award deals with normal displacements, but not CH11 filings.

I'm not planning on sticking around to find out though.
Bloch award will not be changed by bankruptcy. The arbitration involved ALPA and the pilots, the company is not involved and just follows the seniority list based on what ALPA tells them. The only thing that might change is the rules in the JCBA regarding displacement, etc, and in that case things will not benefit 9L pilots.
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