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Old 05-03-2012 | 05:01 AM
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Originally Posted by yeah sure
I was wondering too if the company that hired and then fired the pilot after a week into training could be held legally liable. This seemed like a deceptive tactic and it cost someone their career. Truly a loss of wages situation? I've always kind of felt this way about an airline that calls back furloughs only to keep them for a month or so and then furlough them again. There should be a minimum pay period for anybody who comes to work for you in good faith that protects them from an employers inability to reasonably forecast their business needs.
You are an "at will" employee. Unless you have a contract of some sort that spells out terms and conditions, they have no liability. One of the reasons the "Key Men" came into being.
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Old 05-03-2012 | 05:35 AM
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Maybe he can get lucky and return to his former pay rate but at new hire seniority. That seems like a somewhat fair compromise
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Old 05-03-2012 | 05:35 AM
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Originally Posted by full of luv
Line check,
I know of an Eagle pilot who left on good terms to go to Aloha, was in training during Aloha's BK, and he was told so sorry by Chief pilot. After a weekend, his wife called Chief Pilot and some others at Eagle, bottom line he was back on the line in less than a week. Don't know what she said or did exactly to make that happen.
You should have opened a grievance.

I understand compassion, but how do we draw the line on this? Is it everytime someone quits and the deal falls out within a month? What about if they fail training. What if the fail IOE? What if they get furloughed after 3 months?

I mean come on, AE is a time building job, that is a stepping stone. If people can come right back again, it will slow down attrition, which some of us are counting on!

We can not have a world with no risk.
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Old 05-03-2012 | 08:16 AM
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I knew a guy at 9E that left for a falcon gig for a few months. They let him come back with no interview, but he lost all longevity. Kept the same employee number but he had to start over on the list as far as bennies and senority.
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Old 05-03-2012 | 08:30 AM
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Thanks to everyone with a helpful or at least encouraging response. I just want to add that I have complete respect for the seniority system we have in place, and certainly don't want to take anything away from someone else. I don't think I am entitled to anything. I made a decision and left my job, and it didn't work out. There is always a risk it won't work out. I know/knew that. Having said that, I don't think there are many people who wouldn't at least attempt to return to their old job, ESPECIALLY when you are financially responsible to others. I am floating my resume around to pretty much every company (regional,corporate, charter) that I qualify for. If you have or know of any leads, feel free to throw them my way. Thank you again.
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Old 05-03-2012 | 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by LineCheck
Thanks to everyone with a helpful or at least encouraging response.
You don't want to tell us what airplane you were training for, and if you completed training or not?

Might help you take the next step...
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Old 05-03-2012 | 09:42 AM
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I was training for a right seat Citation job. I didn't complete training and was one week into in-house training before being given walking papers.
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Old 05-03-2012 | 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by LineCheck
I was training for a right seat Citation job. I didn't complete training and was one week into in-house training before being given walking papers.
Why you did not take a LTLOA is beyond me, however hindsight is 20/20.

Not sure your times but try Miamiair, expressjet, street capt at silver, commutair, United (CAL side keep an eye on that), Spirit, Jetblue, Virgin, also look at all those corporate gigs that require 2k total, I forget which of the following but there is like an XOjet, Avantair, and a few other QS ops that require 2k total and pay about 40k/yr doing 7on/7off, and come with some good places to live like Nashville or Memphis.
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Old 05-03-2012 | 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Wingtips
Why you did not take a LTLOA is beyond me, however hindsight is 20/20.
At most regional airlines, I don't think you can just take a LTLOA on a whim. I sure wish we could though...
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Old 05-03-2012 | 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by wrxpilot
At most regional airlines, I don't think you can just take a LTLOA on a whim. I sure wish we could though...
The op works for Eagle, we just offered one April 1st, that got awarded in seniority order and some went to very junior FOs, so I would assume the OP would have been awarded one unless OP is bottom 100.
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