Boyd
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Keep in mind the industry is still changing rather quickly. Many of these regionals have merged. It would make sense for mainline to pick up their regionals to have better control over them (Look at what Delta made Pinnacle do with Colgan's UAX operation, and when RAH bought Frontier and Midwest, you know that got UAL's attention). I see regional sized aircraft getting a larger piece of the pie, one way or the other. And yes, scope will be lifted at mainline to protect those senior pensions.
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Keep in mind the industry is still changing rather quickly. Many of these regionals have merged. It would make sense for mainline to pick up their regionals to have better control over them (Look at what Delta made Pinnacle do with Colgan's UAX operation, and when RAH bought Frontier and Midwest, you know that got UAL's attention). I see regional sized aircraft getting a larger piece of the pie, one way or the other. And yes, scope will be lifted at mainline to protect those senior pensions.
SLed
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The pensions are gone. DAL/UAL's were terminated, CAL/NWA's were frozen, and AMR is going to do one or the other. So you obviously don't know what you are talking about. A lot of majors DID own their feed. Recently, they sold them off to go with the UAL model, which is have as many feeders as possible, and give the new contracts to the lowest bidder. What is happening at PNCL is the future of the regionals. Those Colgan Qs will be flying at UAL operated by brand xxx in no time. Piece of cake.
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totally agree!
#14
The regionals as we know them are done for two reasons; 100 barrel fuel and lack of pilots. The regionals were originally made possible by a plethora of pilots with SJS that willflyforfood and cheap petroleum (The FAA rules have just been icing on the cake). Those two ingredients are gone or close to it. Idk what will happen with scope or future feed, but I do know that you can't not continue with the gojet model for much longer and expect to succeed. I truly believe that there are enough of us who understand what needs to change and that change will come.
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I dunno, man. If you have more than, say, seven or eight years of seniority at SkyWest, leaving would be a tough call. Some guys are, and they may be right, but there's something to be said for staying, too. I believe SkyWest will one day face the day of reckoning when our giant UA and DL contracts get handed over to GoJet (or someone), but that's not in five years. Maybe ten. And even then, it's not a foregone conclusion. I want to leave, but I can't say I blame some of my colleagues for wanting to stay.
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Regional pilots making 6 figures or close to it have a big decision to make, and if past performance is any indication of future returns, many will continue to bide their time until conditions look better and decisions regarding scope play themselves out. These ladies and gentlemen are not necessarily regional lifers, they just don't make rash decisions when the economic fortune of their families is on the line. In that, they are far from "idiots".
#19
Sure, United loves to ***** all their flying out, but they also have arguably the sh!ttiest product out there. Either way...more domestic service will get outsourced to regional carriers, and regional carriers will fly larger aircraft.
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