Boyd
05-01-2012 | 07:38 PM
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but do remember united owns it, and not the joe blow airline of the week.....just remember when RJs cant hire for rate anymore that are worth it for majors to bid the flying to them, you can blame all ya all who came on here and cried about flying next to 800 hour pilots.
Then you can blame how you would not let the airline raise first year pay by $10/hr without raising your pay the same amount.
Then you can blame how you would not let the airline raise first year pay by $10/hr without raising your pay the same amount.
05-01-2012 | 08:35 PM
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05-02-2012 | 09:07 AM
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It is nice to see that you have enough self awareness to realize that you are lucky.
Even though I have been on the " Barbie jet" for two UAL partners now I consider my self lucky as well.
Now that we have that all worked out you guys/gals can go back to the major forum and work out how to take back your flying i.e. my paycheck.
Even though I have been on the " Barbie jet" for two UAL partners now I consider my self lucky as well.
Now that we have that all worked out you guys/gals can go back to the major forum and work out how to take back your flying i.e. my paycheck.
05-02-2012 | 12:48 PM
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05-02-2012 | 01:40 PM
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Only people that haven't done the income projection say that.
If you're a captain at a better regional, it's going to take AT LEAST 7 or 8 years to make back the pay you lose by moving to "most" majors, not to mention the risk of going to the bottom of ANY seniority list (you have to count loss of weeks of vacation pay, 401k match, chances you'll get check airman pay etc etc)
I thought of going to USAir since I'd be based at home - AT LEAST 10 years to make back the loss (at current rates) and that's assuming you upgrade after 8 years. On top of all that, you're back at the bottom on reserve and your QOL goes away.
If you're over 40 or near there it just may not be a good decision.
If you're a captain at a better regional, it's going to take AT LEAST 7 or 8 years to make back the pay you lose by moving to "most" majors, not to mention the risk of going to the bottom of ANY seniority list (you have to count loss of weeks of vacation pay, 401k match, chances you'll get check airman pay etc etc)
I thought of going to USAir since I'd be based at home - AT LEAST 10 years to make back the loss (at current rates) and that's assuming you upgrade after 8 years. On top of all that, you're back at the bottom on reserve and your QOL goes away.
If you're over 40 or near there it just may not be a good decision.
As for Scope, it will not be relaxed. Remember that the ones who now make up the majority at mainline were seriously burned not to long again and now understand how critical it is. They will NOT vote it away again.
It would only take a few years for me to break even if I left SkyWest for DAL, SWA, FedEx or UPS and it won’t be long till the others gain new contracts which add pay increases. Plus you'll get 2.5 times the MAX 401K match at SKW year one at United (16.5% B-Fund) and well over 2X at AA, DAL, US and many more. You'd make FAR more as a career mainline FO than a career Regional CA. I could only justify staying at the regionals if I was in the top 20% of their list and over 50. Otherwise you’re FAR better off leaving with the retirements coming up.
05-02-2012 | 01:44 PM
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