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05-02-2012 | 01:50 PM
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Keep in mind the industry is still changing rather quickly. Many of these regionals have merged. It would make sense for mainline to pick up their regionals to have better control over them (Look at what Delta made Pinnacle do with Colgan's UAX operation, and when RAH bought Frontier and Midwest, you know that got UAL's attention). I see regional sized aircraft getting a larger piece of the pie, one way or the other. And yes, scope will be lifted at mainline to protect those senior pensions.
05-02-2012 | 01:52 PM
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Only people that haven't done the income projection say that.
If you're a captain at a better regional, it's going to take AT LEAST 7 or 8 years to make back the pay you lose by moving to "most" majors, not to mention the risk of going to the bottom of ANY seniority list (you have to count loss of weeks of vacation pay, 401k match, chances you'll get check airman pay etc etc)
I thought of going to USAir since I'd be based at home - AT LEAST 10 years to make back the loss (at current rates) and that's assuming you upgrade after 8 years. On top of all that, you're back at the bottom on reserve and your QOL goes away.
If you're over 40 or near there it just may not be a good decision.
If you're a captain at a better regional, it's going to take AT LEAST 7 or 8 years to make back the pay you lose by moving to "most" majors, not to mention the risk of going to the bottom of ANY seniority list (you have to count loss of weeks of vacation pay, 401k match, chances you'll get check airman pay etc etc)
I thought of going to USAir since I'd be based at home - AT LEAST 10 years to make back the loss (at current rates) and that's assuming you upgrade after 8 years. On top of all that, you're back at the bottom on reserve and your QOL goes away.
If you're over 40 or near there it just may not be a good decision.
I left ExpressJet for NWA. It took me less then 3 years to make up what I lost. I was a reserve CA that had credit of 90+ hours a month. UsAir is one of the lowest paying Majors out there.
05-02-2012 | 01:54 PM
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05-02-2012 | 02:30 PM
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05-02-2012 | 08:47 PM
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I know once you were here, and now your at AA, but you have little knowledge of many things, and calling out AE is getting REALLY old.
05-03-2012 | 04:02 AM
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actually, i am not of the entilement group. no i did not hurt the industry, mainlines/alpa/apa did. i play the hand dealt. you want the cake and eat it also. those days are long gone. you actualy live in a past world which in no way will ever come back. but if it suits you feel free. what i stated is true, what you have stated is just is bottom seniority mainlie former regional guy view just like eaglefly.
05-03-2012 | 04:18 AM
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dont worry, the union leaders at the regionals will agree to lower pay ( i am not for) and aa will add more feeders so you will have a chance to spread your displeasure evenly. you tenure of 19 years was fine while you were here,what changed your views, fact that you are on the other fence?
but you have a right to your view as i do.
05-03-2012 | 05:30 AM
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I'm sorry mam, but I'm not "calling out" AE (that's something kids do in school yards
).......and it's "you're", BTW. I find it amusing you were never here and have been only there for a VERY short time and yet you portray yourself as having a lot of knowledge about a lot of things, waving your long fingernail all over this forum to others on many subjects.I'll bet you don't get many second dates.
05-03-2012 | 05:37 AM
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interesting how when you are on the other side of the fence which you chose to go to, and now feel the furlough/or bottom of the seniority for many, many years. no pension that amounts to much being there only two years, not b fund, not retirement medical. how you would like the regional pilots to sacrifice for mainlines pilots. dont think so, you are a high fiver, went over and now you have to pay.
dont worry, the union leaders at the regionals will agree to lower pay ( i am not for) and aa will add more feeders so you will have a chance to spread your displeasure evenly. you tenure of 19 years was fine while you were here,what changed your views, fact that you are on the other fence?
but you have a right to your view as i do.
dont worry, the union leaders at the regionals will agree to lower pay ( i am not for) and aa will add more feeders so you will have a chance to spread your displeasure evenly. you tenure of 19 years was fine while you were here,what changed your views, fact that you are on the other fence?
but you have a right to your view as i do.
. My "retirement" will remain far and above what Eagle could provide and I was at Eagle notably longer then 19 years.If you think keeping mainline-sized aircraft at mainline is the same as asking regional pilots to "sacrifice for mainline pilots", then guilty as charged. You obviously do and that IS something the high-fivers believe, so perhaps we're BOTH guilty ? Personally, I think you'd have more credibility if you posted your thoughts, beliefs and comments on this forum like you do on others. Tailoring your positions for your audience is something management normally does.
05-03-2012 | 05:41 AM
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Now you claim to be a psychiatrist ?
I'm sorry mam, but I'm not "calling out" AE (that's something kids do in school yards).......and it's "you're", BTW. I find it amusing you were never here and have been only there for a VERY short time and yet you portray yourself as having a lot of knowledge about a lot of things, waving your long fingernail all over this forum to others on many subjects.
I'll bet you don't get many second dates.
I'm sorry mam, but I'm not "calling out" AE (that's something kids do in school yards
).......and it's "you're", BTW. I find it amusing you were never here and have been only there for a VERY short time and yet you portray yourself as having a lot of knowledge about a lot of things, waving your long fingernail all over this forum to others on many subjects.I'll bet you don't get many second dates.
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