You played the hand you were dealt? And Mainline pilots who had bankruptcy shoved down their throats aren't playing the hands they were dealt? I know, what are you supposed to do, just not fly the airplanes? I guess Mainline pilots should've just walked off the job after those bankruptcy contacts slashed their pay, dissolved their pensions, furloughed their fellow pilots, and outsourced their flying. Oh wait, that'd be an illegal job action. You need to take a look in the mirror before you start laying blame on everyone but yourself. Hypocrisy at its best. We are all guilty, including myself.

 

You post this and are upset someone else believes it's possible you may be a high-fiver ?

I think you just convicted yourself....................again. At least, you're starting to sound like the good old ant-eater again.

Of course, sometimes I have trouble telling you and the "big, mean dog" apart.

 

Agreed on the control issue. NO pilot group will fall on their sword for another, that's common knowledge. I'm not blaming (nor am I angry at) the percentage of those at AE who only see the short-term and believe that a large quantity of large RJ's are in their best interest, as they simply are more interested in a quick, sweet dessert, rather then long-term nourishment. Actually, it IS in the best interest for some who are senior and over 50 like was said earlier and those are the cheerleaders leading the young and junior astray for their own interests.

Some get that and others don't. Ultimately, it will be all who go hungry more often in the future.

 

But in the end it does matter what they think since they have no control over it.

Someone could hope and dream of something happening, such as OJ Simpson being guilty when he was on trial. But when they are some fat idiot in their living room, they play no ROLE in it.

 

Disagree. Not "falling on your sword", is NOT the same thing as "playing no role". It's not surprising it's an Eagle pilot rationalizing this philosophy as arguably, Eagle has the most dysfunctional and corrupt union in the airline industry whose pilots are so flaccid, they aren't even WILLING to play a role in the first place. In essence, this fiefdom is running around out-of-control and unchecked by a level of apathy that staggers the imagination. In fact, one domicile REFUSES to adhere to ALPA C & B and hold a regularly scheduled meeting apparently because of concern the reps may be unseated resulting in a domino collapse of the current dictatorial regime.

Sad to see it now only takes a year or two at Eagle before one embraces the idea that they are helpless and impotent. Perhaps if more spent less time with cheese doodles and TV, there would be less "fat idiots in their living rooms" and more assertion in the future of their so-called careers. I guess at that point, riding the coattails of others (mainlines), is all that's left to do ?

 

So you're willing to bet your entire professional career on a carrier that does contract flying for a mothership that could decide at any point to cut your flying, reduce it, or outsource it to another regional?

Really? Are you including the new regional airline bankruptcies in your financial calculations? Eagle, Pinnacle/Mesaba pilots? What does their financial outcome look like once a judge hands down paycuts, work rule cuts, loss of 401k matching, and the plethora of other crappy things that will get cut?

I have a good friend at Comair who I asked in 2004 why he wasn't applying to the majors like Delta or Continental? He ran this financial calculation down for me, just as you claim. Today, he's scheduled to be a RJ FO because with his 15 year service, a fleet of only 44 aircraft means he'll be a FO.

 

Shy we miss you at the nickel. How's virgin so far??