[QUOTE=Boomer;1179716]Thanks man!!

Sled

 

No regional pilot ever "stole" anything: mainline pilots gave it all away.

99% of regional pilots support your cause as their career expectations have been diminished more over a longer period of time because of what has transpired than anyone currently at mainline. Condescension and burning bridges back to the next generation will not help your situation or the profession in general.

Get together and get it done.

 

Only people that haven't done the income projection say that.

If you're a captain at a better regional, it's going to take AT LEAST 7 or 8 years to make back the pay you lose by moving to "most" majors, not to mention the risk of going to the bottom of ANY seniority list (you have to count loss of weeks of vacation pay, 401k match, chances you'll get check airman pay etc etc)

I thought of going to USAir since I'd be based at home - AT LEAST 10 years to make back the loss (at current rates) and that's assuming you upgrade after 8 years. On top of all that, you're back at the bottom on reserve and your QOL goes away.

If you're over 40 or near there it just may not be a good decision.

 

Thank you, GB. I am all for the prosperity of mainline. But with as much flying that's been given away over the past few years...it's going to be tough to get that geenie back in the bottle.

 

There are roughly 300 Comair Captains that stayed put when majors were hiring, and are now back in the right seat. Did they make the right decision? Perhaps Comair is just a fluke, and every other regional will avoid our fate.

The recent trend, however (TSA, Mesaba, Pinnacle, Eagle, etc) does not look good. It may be Comair isn't a fluke, but simply at the front of the pack. One must also take this into account when deciding to stay put in their comfy regional Captain spot.

 

you own nothing. not aircraft nor domestic routes. you are to be as Boyd said a virtual airline, next will be virtual vacations. by the way when your on the street AGAIN, dont bother applying to a regional. would no want anything psychological to happen to you.

 

you RJ guys are nuts. You own nothing at all. Ask the guys at Comair how that worked out, next ask the PNCL guys in year how that is, when you have 10 year upgrade time. Soon ask the Eagle guys how it worked out. You are flat out nuts.

Now after a decade of cry babying about how you hate flying with 400 hour pilots, your RJ land is in BIG trouble. Boyd hit this nail on the head, plus the FT/DT, and the age 65 retirements. It will just be you guys left at your RJ airline. It is not a career stop, ask the guys at ACA, Lakes, TSA, Comair, or soon PNCL how that life at a regional worked out. You cant make a career out of a stepping stone airline, that OWNS NOTHING. Your making a career out of a staffing company. It might have been a nice ride the last ten years, but the bubble has popped, do you really want to ride it into the ground.

 

Wow - you think the last ten years has been a nice ride? I had an airline interview lined up for 5 days after 9/11 happened with Eagle. I've spent the last 10 years specifically staying OUT of the regionals because I thought it wasn't a good time... I just now got into one because I thought it was the best chance for me to take a shot before I got too old (34 now) and too tied down (proposal may be in the near future) to take a big pay cut and commute somewhere.

Anyway, I think you make some good points, but I hope at least the movement over the next 3-5 years is really good overall even if the pay and benefits don't increase much.

 

Why would you guys come to this forum and berate those of us who are trying to make a living? Our choices are none of your concern. Furthermore you, like all of us have no idea what the future holds.
Perhaps I should go and speculate on the major forum that those at the top of your senority list will sell you out on scope just like they did in 2001, just to get a rise out of you to soothe my ego.
Run along trolls. Dont forget that United express makes up a majority of united flying.

 

but do remember united owns it, and not the joe blow airline of the week.....just remember when RJs cant hire for rate anymore that are worth it for majors to bid the flying to them, you can blame all ya all who came on here and cried about flying next to 800 hour pilots.

Then you can blame how you would not let the airline raise first year pay by $10/hr without raising your pay the same amount.