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11-01-2006, 07:01 PM
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11-01-2006, 07:56 PM
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Are any of you real airline pilots? SOP says that you don't even start your turn to final until the QRH is completed and the appropriate checklist complete (minus the landing checklist). Seriously guys I hope ya'll were kidding about the 360 sh!t. We brief it and practice it in training, you pop one after v1 it is threated as airborne emergency you fix, I fly. We will not be rushed; just request vectors and/or a long downwind until the QRH is ran all the way through the landing checklist, then we will comense our final approach. There is no two ways about it, no I know the airplace bullsh!t...QRH has to be ran every time regardless of the emergency memory items and the crew experience.
11-01-2006, 08:18 PM
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Here is what to do: Stay within 15 nm of the airport and do a slow climb to three or four thousand feet AGL. Limit your bank angle to 20 degrees and take your time. Remember in an emergency, it's your show not theirs. Do not do 360s as they present complications. Remember that if one engine failed the second one is all that is keeping you flying so don't be far enough away from the airport where you could not land with zero engines. Plan a 10 or 15 mile straight in approach after all QRH checklists have been completed and stay calm. Always remember that one person must be flying the plane with no distractions. Your scenario is bad technique and poor judgement if it were done. Do this procedure the right way and it will seem routine and easy, that is once you get on the ground!!!
11-01-2006, 09:10 PM
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these guys didnt do a 360 just because they felt like doing it. they probably thought they were checklist complete and and must have thought they missed something major.
aside from a 360 or going back around a box pattern, some crews might even have elected to just land if they had the proper configuration and were in an appropriate position to do so, which wouldnt necessarily be a bad decision. once again i think it all boils down to experience.
aside from a 360 or going back around a box pattern, some crews might even have elected to just land if they had the proper configuration and were in an appropriate position to do so, which wouldnt necessarily be a bad decision. once again i think it all boils down to experience.
11-01-2006, 09:27 PM
#20
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if you lost an engine in a 145 just after rotation, you call departure, they send you back to tower.... you preceed on the extended downwind in severe clear VFR to run your QRH procedures. you then say you're finished and then reqest clearence to land. pretty standard right?
question is... would you decide after a base to final turn that you need to run more checklist, and ask the tower for a 360 right here to finish up...keep in mind you're in a single engine jet at 800-1000 agl, with a load of ppl in the back.
discuss.
question is... would you decide after a base to final turn that you need to run more checklist, and ask the tower for a 360 right here to finish up...keep in mind you're in a single engine jet at 800-1000 agl, with a load of ppl in the back.
discuss.
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