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11-03-2006 | 10:32 AM
#43
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Smoke
You seem pretty arrogant. I pray you are only like this on this messege board and not in an airplane.
Go read "Flight Discipline" by Kern and see why you have a responsibilty to NOT be arrogant in an airplane OR anyplace new pilots have accesss to your views.
If you are really a pro, then act like one.
You seem pretty arrogant. I pray you are only like this on this messege board and not in an airplane.
Go read "Flight Discipline" by Kern and see why you have a responsibilty to NOT be arrogant in an airplane OR anyplace new pilots have accesss to your views.
If you are really a pro, then act like one.
11-03-2006 | 10:41 AM
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Smoke
You seem pretty arrogant. I pray you are only like this on this messege board and not in an airplane.
Go read "Flight Discipline" by Kern and see why you have a responsibilty to NOT be arrogant in an airplane OR anyplace new pilots have accesss to your views.
If you are really a pro, then act like one.
You seem pretty arrogant. I pray you are only like this on this messege board and not in an airplane.
Go read "Flight Discipline" by Kern and see why you have a responsibilty to NOT be arrogant in an airplane OR anyplace new pilots have accesss to your views.
If you are really a pro, then act like one.
hey i really don't give a $@# what you think!!!!
don't like it, don't read it!!
and of think someone made a poor decision, it does not make me arrogant.
11-03-2006 | 08:44 PM
#49
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From: Engines Turn or People Swim
depends on your experience in the airplane. if you have a highly experienced and proficient crew that has dealt with an engine failure before and knows how the airplane will perform, i see no problem with the 360. its all about knowing your personal limits. If ive only been in the airplane for a few months, yea definitly slow things down, but if youre extremely familiar then its a different story.
in the military our checkrides usually involve an instrument approach with a circle to land in the sim with an engine out, which i would say is a much more dangerous maneuver than a 360 on final. Do airlines train this way in the sim?
in the military our checkrides usually involve an instrument approach with a circle to land in the sim with an engine out, which i would say is a much more dangerous maneuver than a 360 on final. Do airlines train this way in the sim?
I kind of have to wonder about the crew because anybody with an ounce of common sense would know that it would be a real ***** to explain that 360 to your CP, so why put yourself in that position in the first place?
11-03-2006 | 09:06 PM
#50
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From: B-737NG preferably in first class with a glass of champagne and caviar
In my 30 years in this business, we never stop the climb at 800 to 1000 AGL. We go to the next 1,000 above the MSA... that's first. In the absence of emergency turn procedures, we follow the missed approach procedure for the runway of departure, if operating within mountainous terrain. We then accomplish the immediate action items once above 500' AGL. Once flaps are up we pull out the QRH. If time is required, take up the hold usually at the initial approach fix regardless of weather conditions usually 1,000’ above the charted figure so as not to interfere with other traffic. Run all appropriate check lists down to gear extension. Once on final approaching the FAF gear down, and landing flaps. Ergo, proper time management will not require 360 turns.
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