Commuting "Etiquette"
07-09-2012 | 12:00 PM
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So, when I fly off-line on a positive space ticket in uniform, am I driving the crew nuts?
07-09-2012 | 01:16 PM
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Personally, it doesn't matter to me if somebody checks in or not. I don't imagine it will change when I upgrade. However, if I know there's somebody trying to commute, I'll do everything I can to get the person on.
07-09-2012 | 01:19 PM
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Do you work at GoJet?
07-09-2012 | 02:03 PM
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I just came up with it. You wouldn't call me "Mr. President" if my username was Barrack Obama, would you?
07-09-2012 | 02:41 PM
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I'm not a pilot, just a humble dispatcher. According to FARs, the pilot in command is not in command until he is actually piloting the airplane. Believe it or not, during the boarding process, the company can actually dictate who gets to ride in the back of their multi-million dollar machine. Imagine.
Of course, any captain can refuse to let an authorized person board. But not without answering for it, and he'd better have a damn good reason, and just saying "PIC" won't cut it.
Of course, any captain can refuse to let an authorized person board. But not without answering for it, and he'd better have a damn good reason, and just saying "PIC" won't cut it.
Duration of Command
The Captain is in command of the crew from the time he reports, prior to departure, until leaving the aircraft at the termination of the flight. The Captain is in command of the aircraft from the time of arrival at the aircraft until leaving the aircraft at the end of the flight.
This allows every decision and task associated with said flight to be covered by Captain authority.
07-09-2012 | 02:57 PM
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121.533:
(a) Each certificate holder conducting domestic operations is responsible for operational control.
. . .
(d) Each pilot in command of an aircraft is, during flight time, in command of the aircraft and crew and is responsible for the safety of the passengers, crewmembers, cargo, and airplane.
. . .
(e) Each pilot in command has full control and authority in the operation of the aircraft, without limitation, over other crewmembers and their duties during flight time, whether or not he holds valid certificates authorizing him to perform the duties of those crewmembers.
If you boot a pax off during boarding at most airlines, you are going to have to explain why.
07-09-2012 | 03:06 PM
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The company OM is approved by the FAA, so it becomes regulatory. If they say the CA is in command at report time, then that's when his command starts.
Now hopefully the pilots at LateralFlyer's company start getting paid at report time.
Now hopefully the pilots at LateralFlyer's company start getting paid at report time.
07-09-2012 | 04:07 PM
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lol. Gotta love all of the flamebait going on haha.
Guys, it's pretty simple.
If you're non-reving, there's no need to talk to anyone.
If you're jumpseating, you talk to the captain whether you have a seat or not. Oh, and don't be a d ck. Say hi to the FO as well.
Guys, it's pretty simple.
If you're non-reving, there's no need to talk to anyone.
If you're jumpseating, you talk to the captain whether you have a seat or not. Oh, and don't be a d ck. Say hi to the FO as well.
07-09-2012 | 04:24 PM
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I'm not a pilot, just a humble dispatcher. According to FARs, the pilot in command is not in command until he is actually piloting the airplane. Believe it or not, during the boarding process, the company can actually dictate who gets to ride in the back of their multi-million dollar machine. Imagine.
And as a dispatcher, you should be aware that when the FAA accepts a company's policies, those policies then become controlling.
By your interpretation, if an item was missed on the preflight and it was the CA's job to make sure it was done, he's not the PIC of the flight yet so he's not responsible. Don't think so...........
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