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Old 07-08-2012 | 12:45 PM
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[QUOTE=Saabs;1226577]Ok here is a scenario that I face every week going to ewr on mainline. I list for the Jumpseat. The gate agent says hey there are seats open in the back and gives me a ticket with a seat in the back. On this ticket it still shows sk3 which is the Jumpseat code for non mainline. I am still jump seating although I have a seat in the back. I ALWAYS go politely ask for a ride, and introduce myself to the flight attendants up front.


According to you when I Jumpseat like this I should just go sit down and not ask for a ride. Man I feel bad for you if you think this is ok.



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Don't feel bad for me. While you are up front shaking hands and making small talk--- I am getting an overhead space and a seat. I have been commuting on AA for 20 years and they could care less if you check in up front. Not saying I am right or wrong----just my experiences over the years.(QUOTE)
Old 07-08-2012 | 01:58 PM
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The only time I don't speak to the CA is if CS is deadheading me. Even so, I'll pop in to say hi if conditions are ideal.

As for mainline CA's not caring, it varies. Some of them give me a blank stare when they see I have a seat in the back. Others really appreciate that I check in.
Old 07-08-2012 | 05:22 PM
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I can tell you from 20 years of experience that the only time you need to check in on a major carrier is when are riding up front in a jump seat. Those guys could care less if you are non-reving or whatever. Some of the commuter/regional guys are a little anal and still get a power trip over the whole check in up front. When I dead head---I never check in. First of all--it is not the Captains airplane---it is owned by a company and that company is deadheading me for a purpose. If the captain has a problem with that---he or she can take it up with the company that is providing the deadhead. I don't mean to sound disrespectful----but some of the commuter/regional drama is just that.
Perhaps in your 20 years you have not yet realized that deadheading is not jumpseating. That is why you don't check in.

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Old 07-08-2012 | 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Saabs
Ok here is a scenario that I face every week going to ewr on mainline. I list for the Jumpseat. The gate agent says hey there are seats open in the back and gives me a ticket with a seat in the back. On this ticket it still shows sk3 which is the Jumpseat code for non mainline. I am still jump seating although I have a seat in the back. I ALWAYS go politely ask for a ride, and introduce myself to the flight attendants up front.


According to you when I Jumpseat like this I should just go sit down and not ask for a ride. Man I feel bad for you if you think this is ok.
No. That is JUMPSEATING which all of us have clearly stated all throughout this thread. Checking in with Capt in this situation is what we ALL are telling you to do.

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Old 07-09-2012 | 03:11 AM
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Non rev with a seat in the back on mainline partner = no stop at fightdeck

Jumpseat even wih seat in back assigned = stop and say hello
Old 07-09-2012 | 03:53 AM
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I cannot believe so many people are so confused by this! If you go
To the airport and have an agent list you/ checked in CASS at the gate you are jumpseating ( seat upfront, back, lav, belly). If you go list online on your own airline and have been charged the fees associated ( yearly, one time etc) it is non reving. This is sad. And gate agents are not in control when you jumpseat, ALWAYS check in with crew, if the flight is late it is the CSAs fault for boarding you so late.
Old 07-09-2012 | 05:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Fly782
I cannot believe so many people are so confused by this! If you go
To the airport and have an agent list you/ checked in CASS at the gate you are jumpseating ( seat upfront, back, lav, belly). If you go list online on your own airline and have been charged the fees associated ( yearly, one time etc) it is non reving. This is sad. And gate agents are not in control when you jumpseat, ALWAYS check in with crew, if the flight is late it is the CSAs fault for boarding you so late.
Unless your Michelle and have been doing it for 20 years than etiquette doesn't matter.
Old 07-09-2012 | 06:29 AM
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wow has this thread passed the number of pages of "strobes for takeoff?" Seriously?
Old 07-09-2012 | 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by fly4michelle
I can tell you from 20 years of experience that the only time you need to check in on a major carrier is when are riding up front in a jump seat. Those guys could care less if you are non-reving or whatever.
Oh, Michelle.
You are so very wrong.
I have been in the 121 world for at least 17 yrs now and I did have an incident at AA. During my early days I was unsure of the "etiquette of jumpseating" and I took a seat in the back without notifying the Capt. I was summoned to the cockpit from an announcement over the PA. The Capt read me the riot act (in a nice way) and let me know to ALWAYS check in with the cockpit when ever I jumpseated. They do want to know you on board because 1) It is a professional courtesy and 2) They know they have another resource if they should have to use it.

When I was at the commuters we did have a few problems with jumpseaters not checking in with the Capt. It was mainly Continental ex-military guys that caused the problems. I am not sure why they felt the need not to "ask" for a ride but again jumpseating is a professional courtesy.
Old 07-09-2012 | 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by blakman7
Uh yes, a flight crew (Captain) does have say in who gets on his/her aircraft and who doesn't. I
I'm not a pilot, just a humble dispatcher. According to FARs, the pilot in command is not in command until he is actually piloting the airplane. Believe it or not, during the boarding process, the company can actually dictate who gets to ride in the back of their multi-million dollar machine. Imagine.

Of course, any captain can refuse to let an authorized person board. But not without answering for it, and he'd better have a damn good reason, and just saying "PIC" won't cut it.

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