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08-24-2012 | 07:30 PM
#181
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Yup i remember that. We got a nice line guaranteeing aircraft not pilots. They parked 37? And furlough the cap out of comair. Im voting no, but im sick Oct hearing people say they can't find a carrier to pick it up. Yes they can and they will. When dl did it to comair rah, mesa etc. Just came to cvg and hired the furloughs. How does anyone think gets is covering all there new flying? Simple they hired comair management and hired comair pilots. Its not hard to do. Only ones who can't figure it out are the people saying it can't be done. With that said lets vote this turd down, and show management how it feels to suck, can we also stop talking about getting rid of all our bums in alpa and actually do it. Sorry if this post sucks but typing on my phone and Google seems to be owning my spelling and overall sentence building ability!
08-24-2012 | 08:21 PM
#182
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I want them to file the 1113 paperwork first, so we can see a real plan, oh wait they have not even put one single paper into court......hmmmmm
Team Tony OUT NOW
08-24-2012 | 08:26 PM
#183
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I disagree, Comair was during a huge downturn for the majors, and no 1500 hour rule.
The FTDT requires more pilots, the 1500 hour rule cuts off the supply, and the amount of pilots coming in is back to 1930 levels. Add into that 35,000 pilots retiring over the next 15 years from the biggest 8, and you have a mess. They know it, and they are scared beyond belief at the RJ level. Wait till United hires 500 in the next 6 months, and soon all the others follow suit.
Sucks 2000 out of the regionals in 10 months, while require more for FTDT and cutting the new hires to a dribble. I think this time, they wont be able to just get guys to come to the new place, they wont even be able to keep up with attrition.
The FTDT requires more pilots, the 1500 hour rule cuts off the supply, and the amount of pilots coming in is back to 1930 levels. Add into that 35,000 pilots retiring over the next 15 years from the biggest 8, and you have a mess. They know it, and they are scared beyond belief at the RJ level. Wait till United hires 500 in the next 6 months, and soon all the others follow suit.
Sucks 2000 out of the regionals in 10 months, while require more for FTDT and cutting the new hires to a dribble. I think this time, they wont be able to just get guys to come to the new place, they wont even be able to keep up with attrition.
08-25-2012 | 06:01 PM
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08-25-2012 | 07:16 PM
#185
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Its all unknown, no matter what happens.
08-25-2012 | 08:06 PM
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I believe what RJ is saying is. He is a captain now on the CRJ7 and only needs to be around another year or 2 to get his PIC necessary to leave. And he is expecting that they will hire him. And all he needs is a YES vote to keep eagle from going anywhere, or his CA seat from going anywhere, for just a couple years. And after that he can give a flying ____ about what happens to the other pilots cus he has it in his mind that he'll move on to the Major of his choice.
08-26-2012 | 04:25 AM
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Yup, I remember that. We got a nice line guaranteeing aircraft not pilots. They parked 37? And furloughed the crap out of comair. Im voting no, but I'm sick and tired of hearing people say AA can't find a carrier to pick it up. Yes they can and they will. When DL did it to comair, rah, mesa, etc. Just came to cvg and hired the furloughs. How does anyone think gojets is covering all they're new flying? Simple they hired comair management and hired comair pilots. Its not hard to do. Only ones who can't figure it out are the people saying it can't be done. With that said lets vote this turd down, and show management what suck feels like. Sorry if this post sucks but typing on my phone and Google seems to be owning my spelling and overall sentence building ability!
Sam,
I'm a big no vote for many of the reasons being stated. However, the captains I fly with who've spent the last 20 years flying the Bahamas are all going to vote for what ever is put in front of them....they're all scared of being the next Comair and don't realize that by voting these concessions in you've prevented nothing.
The other thing they are all locked in on is no drop in their hourly rate. PBS is going to insure they take home less money next year than this year.
08-26-2012 | 08:08 AM
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voting yes or voting no, the outcome of this company will still be the same. The 35 million a year in savings, is not going to change the outcome. If they do plan on shrinking us to death, which I doubt, it wont matter how you vote.
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