eaglefly

In all likelihood, ALPA will override the pilots and approve MEC ratification. As it stands now, they've hijacked the property and not a single action is being taken to stop them. It's become a dictatorship of the meek and oppressed.

D B Cooper

Sadly I agree with you. Like their 16 year vote, I can see this one going down much the same way. My statement was more directed at RJ considering he sounds like one who wants to be on top of the S*$& Pile.

johnso29

And that's your choice. If you want to fly something bigger, you'll have to give it up.

johnso29

Actually, based on your current fleet it's a fact.

Now the AMR BK might get you to CRJ900's but that's about it. Of course, that's my opinion.

lakehouse

RJPILOT most likely wont get to fly anything more than he is on now, he will be flying the CRJ700 for CRJ900 pay, oh wait they will be the same. With this pay banding and seat locking, he wont get to fly the CRJ 900, it will be the guys on the EMJ as it shrinks. Actually I guess its a common type isnt it?

eaglefly

Birds are chirping an announcement regarding RAH will occur by end of week.

lakehouse

dont get too much of a woody, with the scope relief that might be coming, it could be your job at AA not ours.

With the 1113, 125 MORE JETS are coming to the AA feeders. PLUS room for large TURBO PROPS! Until 125 jets and some turbo props are announced with other feed airlines, Eagle is still not yet doomed.

I hope no one loses their job, but your post comes across as giddy giddy Eagle job loss.

I am hoping to god that the fear of what AA pilots might do, might somehow save some scope and QOL for you guys. What happens at AA has a bigger impact on my future then what happens to me at Eagle IMO.

eaglefly

Rick, it was a simply statement of information I have heard and am passing along. I get no "woody" out of it or the thought of any job losses for Eagle pilots.

You're taking hits off of RJ pilot's sippy cup.

I have not heard any verifiable details, so you shouldn't get yourself worked into a lather over it as it may not result in Eagle job losses. I don't know details and if I don't know about that, I couldn't get a woody over it even if I wanted to.

It's just what I've heard from a source I consider fairly credible. TIFWIW.

lakehouse

this entire web forum is screaming about announcement for AA feed, your just repeating it when you come on here and post it. Considering they are losing 15 airplanes with AA in March, the first 15 airplanes are not new flying. If it is a small deal like 25 airplanes, that still leaves a ton of room for Eagle to come out of this about the same size. The FTDT in a year and change will require more pilots at all airlines. Retirement/movement/musical chairs etc are coming soon. RAH is biting off alot and still has no stable labor with the pilots, if they take on 100 airplanes with AA and then don't fly it, the penalties alone could put them into CH11. These are small profit contracts, and when they are not completed they come with huge penalties. At some point thing will rock bottom because of the 1500 hour rule. Zero to hero is one thing, Zero to hero and then 1500 hours, with VERY LIMITED low time jobs out there, its going to be a huge catalyst.

lakehouse

Gramps I realize that, I have been following along, but they are walking on ice, and if they push the wrong button and the AA guys cause 30% of flights to CX and 50% to be more than 2 hours late, and it goes on for weeks, the cost savings of lower cost RJs might be lost, and then more. Its going to be interesting. It has been done, just look at the United summer from hell. With the union screaming dont do it, I am not sure how the courts can impose a fine on anyone since its all grass root. What will they do, start firing people for not wanting broken airplanes or going out on long term leave for depression?

I am not at all advocating any of these things, I am just repeating what is common knowledge and what United did in 2000. This post is not a go do this post, it is a this is what the threat by the pilots is from what I hear.