Eagle T.A. vote
09-25-2012 | 01:34 PM
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Do you think a No vote stops pay banding or PBS? I am on the fence about how I am going to vote. But feel the company can and will get everything it wants in a 1113. I just have a hard time voting yes to anything that lowers the bar for the other airlines but I also know the bar is going to get lowered with or without my help. We have no way of taking the same path as APA. AA pilots can't be replaced like we can.
09-25-2012 | 01:41 PM
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They didn't get unlimited code codeshare and and unlimited furlough only because it was not called for in their business plan. They got everything else they wanted including PBS, pay banding and even that sick time pay out BS.
09-25-2012 | 03:20 PM
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Do you think a No vote stops pay banding or PBS? I am on the fence about how I am going to vote. But feel the company can and will get everything it wants in a 1113. I just have a hard time voting yes to anything that lowers the bar for the other airlines but I also know the bar is going to get lowered with or without my help. We have no way of taking the same path as APA. AA pilots can't be replaced like we can.
09-25-2012 | 03:23 PM
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Wrong again, young one. They didn't get it because it wasn't in the 1113, and would not have been approved. In fact, one of them was specifically tried and rejected byte judge. The 1113 is not a contract. They have intentionally not implemented most things, since they know they won't be keeping very much of it.
09-25-2012 | 05:00 PM
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Just a couple things. I don't care if you vote yes or no, but I'll give a little history.
The aircraft at Eagle, unless things have changed, we're bought by AMR and leased to Eagle by AMR Leasing. At the time, Peter B. was president of the leasing company and Eagle.
Eagle pilots can't compare themselves to APA. They voted no. Their flying for the name on the plane and can't realistically be outsourced. Eagle is not that way. Previous to the 16 year contract, Eagle was four companies. Flagship, Executive, Simmons and Wings West. As an example of how AMR did things, WW had 2 year upgrades in DFW but it was 8 years for Simmons. Didn't vote for the contract they offered, one of the other Eagles would grow at your expense.
The aircraft at Eagle, unless things have changed, we're bought by AMR and leased to Eagle by AMR Leasing. At the time, Peter B. was president of the leasing company and Eagle.
Eagle pilots can't compare themselves to APA. They voted no. Their flying for the name on the plane and can't realistically be outsourced. Eagle is not that way. Previous to the 16 year contract, Eagle was four companies. Flagship, Executive, Simmons and Wings West. As an example of how AMR did things, WW had 2 year upgrades in DFW but it was 8 years for Simmons. Didn't vote for the contract they offered, one of the other Eagles would grow at your expense.
09-25-2012 | 05:04 PM
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Wrong again, young one. They didn't get it because it wasn't in the 1113, and would not have been approved. In fact, one of them was specifically tried and rejected byte judge. The 1113 is not a contract. They have intentionally not implemented most things, since they know they won't be keeping very much of it.
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