Originally Posted by MunkyButtr

I've had pbs for about four and half of my six years at 9E and can say that its not too bad, especially if your senior. Junior pilots really have no say on their schedule with pbs. Paper bids were much better for junior pilots cause you had some sort of control. As a senior pilot pbs has worked out great for me, but like I said before junior guys get stuck with whatever is left over. Im just curious, not starting anything, but what is it about pbs that has you guys worried?

Originally Posted by jumpseat2024

Just means we can't bid into a conflict and get 19 days off for a weeks worth of vacation...while it is an awesome benefit to working the system, I understand the inefficiency of it and the company's desire to go to PBS.

Plus, a lot of guys on here just like to b$&!@ and moan.

Originally Posted by jumpseat2024

Just means we can't bid into a conflict and get 19 days off for a weeks worth of vacation...while it is an awesome benefit to working the system, I understand the inefficiency of it and the company's desire to go to PBS.

Plus, a lot of guys on here just like to b$&!@ and moan.

Originally Posted by samballs

Well since your post is all about you, lets go over what we don't like(I used it for 7 yrs). First jr. Guys get hosed, it does not honor everything, it likes to have you at work, not off. It reduces staffing, when bidding hard lines I know what ill get, pbs tells me what I can have. Say I want mon-weds off each week, but it can only give me it once or twice, now I get a line with 4 on 1 off 4 on, 4 on 1 off 4 on. Then another 4 off. For those of you that rather be at work then home, read a flying magazine all day, and go to air shows in between shifts thats a great schedule otherwise the rest of us with lives rather not have that. Also if it doesn't like any of my bid then I get whatever it wants, meaning the ****ty of **** trips. But hey it works for you so who cares about the other 3000, you wont like it when you start losing aircraft. I wouldn't even say jr. Guys get hosed so do sr. Bidding for trips specifically is hard because you don't know what trips the guys in front of you bid for so. So basically after #5 on the list you bid days off and report and release and hope it works. Still I'm glad it works for you, but will it work for while other company's are flying your aircraft?

Originally Posted by rickt86

The lack of open time. Due to training, transition, and vacation conflicts, we end up with a good amount of open time after bids close with the paper bid system. In the summer time it means REALLY good trips in open time, since that's when senior guys have vacation. I do really good with trip trading. I take me crap 13 day off 4 day trip all weekend, worth 18 hour each, and 73 hours total and trade it into good trips with partial weekends off worth 98 hours. My Dad has PBS at United and he has nothing in open time ever, hes stuck with what he gets.

Originally Posted by PilotJ3

Ujummm...

What if...and this is just a what if...

We get bought by Skywest??? I know for sure that "flysooner9", "rickt86", and myself will have a lot of more people below us. Life could be good if they go by date of hire.

Originally Posted by flysooner9

Love how you guys are arguing over something that is a done deal. There's no changing it now. 75% of our pilots voted for it. I was a NO vote but i accept the fact it passed, nothing we can do about it now besides get used to it or get the ef out.

Originally Posted by mooney

The key is bid using mimimal parameters and don't get all fancy. And use your brain...talking to some of our PBS gurus it's amazing how many people whine because they didn't get every saturday off, but they bid a specific trip that was a thurs-fri-sat at a higher priority. or someone junior to them got the trip they wanted, but the 2 trips you requested would put you at a 30/7. Also think computer logic not common sense. For example you want all DFW layovers...don't choose "desire DFW layovers" or you will get min days off because it thinks you want to be there all the dang time since you requested it. You would have to choose "avoid " all other stations besides DFW.