Delta to Pinnacle: Concessions or shutdown
12-09-2012 | 06:45 PM
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12-10-2012 | 11:54 AM
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2nd tier...funny! How about the FDx pilots with their stuff in at DAL and vice versa?. As for the pilots here at the 2nd tier wishing to leave, I say "adios". This has been the deal my entire 25 years. I remember back when the guys at the 2nd tier SWA told the boys at the (then) Majors to pound sand. And as they say boys and girls " the rest is history"...
12-10-2012 | 02:25 PM
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Also keep in mind that while SWA's pay is industry leading today, it was industry lagging pre-9/11.
12-10-2012 | 02:35 PM
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While you do have a vaild point that there are pilots at mainline carriers applying to other mainline carriers (and there always will be), it's primarily the junior guys who can risk the move without losing much. Probably not going to be as many guys at DAL/FedEx applying to Spirit/Frontier...
Also keep in mind that while SWA's pay is industry leading today, it was industry lagging pre-9/11.
Also keep in mind that while SWA's pay is industry leading today, it was industry lagging pre-9/11.
12-10-2012 | 04:01 PM
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2nd tier...funny! How about the FDx pilots with their stuff in at DAL and vice versa?. As for the pilots here at the 2nd tier wishing to leave, I say "adios". This has been the deal my entire 25 years. I remember back when the guys at the 2nd tier SWA told the boys at the (then) Majors to pound sand. And as they say boys and girls " the rest is history"...
12-17-2012 | 01:57 PM
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From: Body at sea level; heart at 70,000+
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I will go out (way out) on a limb and predict:
1. The pinnacle bankruptcy preceding will be settled quickly with minor impact on pilot pay and benefits.
2. At some point the transfer of pinnacle crj900s to express jet will be halted.
3. Pinnacle will become an all crj900 company and will receive additional 900s from the delta purchase.
4. Delta will establish a flow through program with pinnacle.
5. Pinnacle will be moved to msp.
Call me crazy or dumb whatever "floats your boat." i am not and never have been an airline pilot. I did teach erau graduate courses in air carrier management but that was a dozen years ago. Now i just sit on the sidelines and "guess."
I will go out (way out) on a limb and predict:
1. The pinnacle bankruptcy preceding will be settled quickly with minor impact on pilot pay and benefits.
2. At some point the transfer of pinnacle crj900s to express jet will be halted.
3. Pinnacle will become an all crj900 company and will receive additional 900s from the delta purchase.
4. Delta will establish a flow through program with pinnacle.
5. Pinnacle will be moved to msp.
Call me crazy or dumb whatever "floats your boat." i am not and never have been an airline pilot. I did teach erau graduate courses in air carrier management but that was a dozen years ago. Now i just sit on the sidelines and "guess."
12-21-2012 | 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by ftrooppilot 
(before the TA was published)
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I will go out (way out) on a limb and predict:
1. The pinnacle bankruptcy preceding will be settled quickly with minor impact on pilot pay and benefits. Obviously furloughs have a major impact on some however "the Bridge Agreement provides for furlough benefits packages that include pay, health care, passes, and an ATP for those with the requisite number of hours."
2. At some point the transfer of pinnacle crj900s to express jet will be halted. Depends upon the TA vote.
3. Pinnacle will become an all crj900 company and will receive additional 900s from the delta purchase. I interpret 81 as a minimum. " our airline will consist of at least 81 CRJ 900 aircraft."
4. Delta will establish a flow through program with pinnacle. "The Bridge Agreement also provides all Pinnacle pilots on the ISL with a career path to Delta."
5. Pinnacle will be moved to MSP.
I'm close to batting three out of five but realize a rejection Vote could change everything.
(before the TA was published). . . . . . . . . . . . .
I will go out (way out) on a limb and predict:
1. The pinnacle bankruptcy preceding will be settled quickly with minor impact on pilot pay and benefits. Obviously furloughs have a major impact on some however "the Bridge Agreement provides for furlough benefits packages that include pay, health care, passes, and an ATP for those with the requisite number of hours."
2. At some point the transfer of pinnacle crj900s to express jet will be halted. Depends upon the TA vote.
3. Pinnacle will become an all crj900 company and will receive additional 900s from the delta purchase. I interpret 81 as a minimum. " our airline will consist of at least 81 CRJ 900 aircraft."
4. Delta will establish a flow through program with pinnacle. "The Bridge Agreement also provides all Pinnacle pilots on the ISL with a career path to Delta."
5. Pinnacle will be moved to MSP.
I'm close to batting three out of five but realize a rejection Vote could change everything.
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