You're like the slow clap guy, just had to do it and then look around for the followers while you clap like an idiot.

 

9e filed BK, & Delta provided DIP financing. Delta pilots and DALPA don't control where Delta management shifts their flying in the RJ shuffle game. That's not an option for us. I suppose it's American pilots fault for Eagle losing flying, or United pilots fault for TSA pilots losing flying. Obviously, we all control that.

 

the Delta (ALPA) pilots voted to take the RJ200 fleet to 125 and conceed scope for more large RJ's to the lowest bidder, 9E (ALPA) has 140... 140-125 = 15 planes...probably more

Either way the DALPA guys have to look out for themselves...not pointing the finger, but facts are facts

 

Compass was an example, the NWA bankruptcy contract stipulated that the 76 seat flying was going to be done by ALPA pilots. You at mainline have a say in your flying, it is your flying we are doing, they have done a good job in making you think it isn't.

 

I would have been ecstatic to get rid of every last outsourced RJ (or bring them over to mainline) if we could have.

 

In a very indirect word play your statment could be somewhat vaguely accurate. Nonetheless, that is not what Delta pilots voted for regarding scope.

 

You need to also thank us, your ALPA brothers, for allowing our mainline jobs to be transferred to substandard airlines like Pinnacle, while mainline pilots got furloughed.

None of Pinnacle's flying is really Pinnacle's. All that flying is DAL/NWA mainline, never forget it. You are sitting where you are sitting because mainline jobs got transferred to your low bidding, "pay for training/Gulfstream hiring" airline. THat is it.<---It should have never been this way. Now the young have a taste for blood. And all of a sudden PCL is a high paying airline while GOJet is not News FLash: Both airlines are a piece of turd in terms of pay and rules.

I am all for the Pinnacle dudes getting on at Delta but stop with your arrogant drivel. We are all in this mess together.

TEN

PS. We all get fortunate and lucky. We should all help each other out. Pilot groups are not the enemy. We need to work with each other.

 

Show me in the Delta pilots contract where it states "we conceed more large RJs to the lowest bidder". Better yet, tell me what pilot group has control over which regional is awarded flying. With your logic, it's APA's fault that Eagle lost flying to Skywest and it's UAL pilots fault that TSA lost flying to GoJet. Your argument doesn't hold water.

 

Gee thanks, but us 'commuter' guys have been screaming for years to have the majors tighten up scope.

Seriously, take the flying back. Tighten scope!

 

Whoa whoa whoa...what did you think was going to happen? Anyone who has done their homework over the last several years knows that the company with the lowest cost margin gets the airplanes. Where have the aircraft gone? To the Lowest bidders...where were the jobs lost...Comair and soon 9E (ALPA carriers) because of high costs. Just because it's not written in fine print on a contract doesn't mean it won't happen. Why not start a flow and give mainline guys an oppurtunity to have a place if crap hits the fan like CZ has? Keep ALPA pilots flying. It's business 101. Why give 76 airplanes to 9E or OH operating with 15+ year payscales when you can operate the same aircraft with guys at CZ and G7 at 5-6 year pay. As I mentioned before I don't blame any pilot group for the choices they make, and I don't blame a single pilot for a yes or no vote, because in reality a pilot makes a decision usually based on what's best for him and if he has one, his family. I'm all for mainline taking back flying...it is your flying. Period. My conceed statement was just saying that giving up larger airframes, because in reality, Delta has 76 seat payscales. Why not fly 76 aircraft there? Trust me I know it was a net loss in Regional seat feed...it will bump mainline flying in between 60-65% in the not so distant future...that's a good thing