Delta to Pinnacle: Concessions or shutdown
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Does anyone really think that an airline like Delta is actually planning its fleet based on what contract 9E pilots approve or disapprove? The die has already been cast. Delta already knows who is getting what planes. It'd be silly to think that voting on concessions is going to make a real difference.
#76
The commuters that have the Lowest labor costs and can agree to contracts that greatly benefit the majors will be around for a while
The commuters that don't agree to concessions but instead choose to offer their pilots a "pilot career", with decent pay and benefits won't be able to survive.
Truly a race to the bottom
The commuters that don't agree to concessions but instead choose to offer their pilots a "pilot career", with decent pay and benefits won't be able to survive.
Truly a race to the bottom

Sorry, had to comment
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From: Nice while it lasted
Full disclosure: I was a capt for four years until the axe fell.
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In light of today's events and hearing things from the horse's mouth (TW) in MSP today that the handwriting is on the wall. There is no future for this pilot group, and we are not working in a growth industry. There is a point now, where one has to consider what their own personal situation is and how to best serve their own needs. However, I also feel that how we handle ourselves during this painful process is going to define our legacy as Pinnacle pilots (Pinnacle Airlines, Mesaba Airlines and Colgan Air collectively).
I don't think that I will be able to look myself in the mirror if I were to vote "yes" on a substandard contract that is going to have far-reaching effects on those that come after us. Best of luck, and I wish you all the best in the future...
I don't think that I will be able to look myself in the mirror if I were to vote "yes" on a substandard contract that is going to have far-reaching effects on those that come after us. Best of luck, and I wish you all the best in the future...
#79
How can you blame Delta pilots for wanting to fly Delta pax? I'm sorry to see Pinnacle guys put in this type of situation, but blaming anyone other than Pinnacle Mgmt. and Delta Mgmt. is misguided and unproductive.
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Its called "Scope", something that was sold years ago!!!! I applaud the last contract voted in by Delta pilots, except the part of more 76 seat airplanes coming on property by regionals....WHY? It just adds to the race to the bottom, those planes could be flown by mainline pilots for mainline pay rates.
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