HR Discrimination and Such
12-31-2012 | 05:33 AM
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I was raised in a working class household in the Southeast. Parents split so I joined the Navy to finance college. Flight instructed, flew 135 boxes at night and got 800 turbine PIC there. EMB145 turbine PIC over 1500. 7000 total. Hopefully that gets me in the lower tier of "competitive" right?
Flying a Delta jumpseat on 76 with female FO. Got to talking about what's competitive with the crew to get a look from Delta and she speaks up and says, "Oh, I got hired here with 2000 total. Flight instructed till 900 and went to regional XXX. I didn't upgrade, (translate NO turbine PIC) and hired into the right seat here in 2007. You should be golden."
I guess she was clueless.
Just got me to thinking about how proud I was of being a Cherokee now.
Flying a Delta jumpseat on 76 with female FO. Got to talking about what's competitive with the crew to get a look from Delta and she speaks up and says, "Oh, I got hired here with 2000 total. Flight instructed till 900 and went to regional XXX. I didn't upgrade, (translate NO turbine PIC) and hired into the right seat here in 2007. You should be golden."
I guess she was clueless.
Just got me to thinking about how proud I was of being a Cherokee now.
12-31-2012 | 05:37 AM
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Oh yea I remember 13 years ago when I was trying to apply to Harvard. I pretty much needed 1500 or higher on my SATs because I'm asian while your typical "white" American needed 1300 or 1200 if you were black or Hispanic. Quit your whining. Or maybe I should put in my résumé with the majors and get hired to test your theory. Last I check I think 90% of pilots in majors were white males.
12-31-2012 | 05:44 AM
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Oh yea I remember 13 years ago when I was trying to apply to Harvard. I pretty much needed 1500 or higher on my SATs because I'm asian while your typical "white" American needed 1300 or 1200 if you were black or Hispanic. Quit your whining. Or maybe I should put in my résumé with the majors and get hired to test your theory. Last I check I think 90% of pilots in majors were white males.
You would be foolish not to apply and check the box.
12-31-2012 | 05:45 AM
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Oh yea I remember 13 years ago when I was trying to apply to Harvard. I pretty much needed 1500 or higher on my SATs because I'm asian while your typical "white" American needed 1300 or 1200 if you were black or Hispanic. Quit your whining. Or maybe I should put in my résumé with the majors and get hired to test your theory. Last I check I think 90% of pilots in majors were white males.
12-31-2012 | 06:08 AM
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Oh yea I remember 13 years ago when I was trying to apply to Harvard. I pretty much needed 1500 or higher on my SATs because I'm asian while your typical "white" American needed 1300 or 1200 if you were black or Hispanic. Quit your whining. Or maybe I should put in my résumé with the majors and get hired to test your theory. Last I check I think 90% of pilots in majors were white males.
When I was a chief flight instructor at a 141 school, I had three instructors hired straight into United with a few hundred hours. I had thousands and couldn't get an interview.
When I was a regional captain, every minority FO I flew with went to United, UPS, and American. I couldn't get an interview.
I met a girl at United when I was jumpseating. She had 400 hours and was doing IOE. I had 10,000 and a master's degree when I got hired at a major.
Oh well, that's life. Like I tell my kids, "life's not fair."
12-31-2012 | 06:11 AM
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I knew a pilot back in the '90's trying to get on with UAL. He couldn't get an interview after years of trying. Finally, he put "native american" on the application. He got an interview right away. At the interview they asked what tribe he was. He played dumb about it and was asked to leave.
12-31-2012 | 06:19 AM
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I knew a pilot back in the '90's trying to get on with UAL. He couldn't get an interview after years of trying. Finally, he put "native american" on the application. He got an interview right away. At the interview they asked what tribe he was. He played dumb about it and was asked to leave.
Regarding your last sentence, if I really did put Native American on my resume and Yonited calls, I guess I could "research" and get a "rough history" of a tribe that my "ancestor" came from and vomit that stuff to them like info coming out of my mouth when practicing for an oral. I'm adopted (for real) and I really "believe" that is the case after my "research" so what could they say to me? You don't look Native American.
12-31-2012 | 06:21 AM
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Nobody is offended yet because we are all white males. Except for our Cherokee nation friend, "how". Women and minorities don't make up the majority.
I agree there are some dissimilarities but when you think of who you fly most with? ... probably a white male.
Long story short, I just click " prefer not to answer column"
I agree there are some dissimilarities but when you think of who you fly most with? ... probably a white male.
Long story short, I just click " prefer not to answer column"
12-31-2012 | 06:24 AM
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I knew a pilot back in the '90's trying to get on with UAL. He couldn't get an interview after years of trying. Finally, he put "native american" on the application. He got an interview right away. At the interview they asked what tribe he was. He played dumb about it and was asked to leave.
Apparently he got the job.
