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Old 01-16-2013 | 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by IBPilot
wow.....you are something else....a jumpseat war.
It's not a war, it's a safety issue. I don't want to get stabbed in the back. Again.
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Old 01-16-2013 | 01:10 PM
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It sounds like Captain Tony is having a hard time feeding his kids. Can we start a fund and help him out?
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Old 01-16-2013 | 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy
No, there is no scabbing here, no picket lines were crossed.


But here's the thing. Anyone who voted yes now has no right to make fun of a scab, because the scab does what he does for the same reason voted yes: have to pay bills, mortgages, feed family, and looking out for #1. These reasons have been posted as reason for yes vote. Same reasons, in one case taking a regional industry concessionary contract, and another, crossing a picket line. I'm just curious where the line is drawn? At what point does paying family bills and feeding family get overriden? Obviously, I would think most agree that scabbing is one of those things where you just don't do it. So your family misses bills, meals, and struggle. If it can be overridden for scabbing, why can't it be overriden for a regional industry concessionary contract?
Same could be said of someone who went to a non union LCC that undercuts mainline rates, if someone used your stupid logic
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Old 01-16-2013 | 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Slats
I 100% agree with you. The only crap part is, Mainline will probably outsource more feed to larger RJs as retirements start to come into play... I hope I am wrong, but I think it's a good possibility to see more and more trans con flights being flown by larger RJs while mainline focuses primarily on international flights.
Originally Posted by Pielut
Bingo. A virtual airline/certificate holding company is coming to a town near you.
I doubt it. Fee for Departure contracts are what have made regionals so successful over the last 10 years. Now Legacy airlines are done signing these contracts. Long term FFD contracts are rapidly dying. Modern day regionals do not have the resources to run their own airline. Once costs such as fuel, maintenance, ticketing, training, etc are passed on many of these regionals will be unable to sustain the cost.
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Old 01-16-2013 | 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by IBPilot
Same could be said of someone who went to a non union LCC that undercuts mainline rates, if someone used your stupid logic
Um, no. I have never, and will never, vote on a paycut if my employer (regardless of who) asks me to. And there is no relationship between this and working at non union JetBlue or VX. Totally different story, and in fact, those at JetBlue are out earning their counterparts at ALPA Spirit.

My point was that the reasoning sounds exactly the same. Family to feed, bills to pay, mortgage, and gotta look out for #1. Those are the reasons to vote yes, and are also the same reasons given by scabs. Where is the line drawn?
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Old 01-16-2013 | 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy
Um, no. I have never, and will never, vote on a paycut if my employer (regardless of who) asks me to. And there is no relationship between this and working at non union JetBlue or VX. Totally different story, and in fact, those at JetBlue are out earning their counterparts at ALPA Spirit.

My point was that the reasoning sounds exactly the same. Family to feed, bills to pay, mortgage, and gotta look out for #1. Those are the reasons to vote yes, and are also the same reasons given by scabs. Where is the line drawn?
Lines drawn during a strike. Pretty easy.
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Old 01-16-2013 | 01:43 PM
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Any dumbass that compares 9E getting their asses kicked into a concessionary contract to a scab crossing a picket line does not have a clue.
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Old 01-16-2013 | 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Bartok
Any dumbass that compares 9E getting their asses kicked into a concessionary contract to a scab crossing a picket line does not have a clue.
Yup, look at who wrote it. Shyguy. He clearly has no clue or class. He is the biggest tool on APC. Funny thing is we all know who he is yet he still spouts off all of his nonsense.
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Old 01-16-2013 | 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Delta1067
Yup, look at who wrote it. Shyguy. He clearly has no clue or class. He is the biggest tool on APC. Funny thing is we all know who he is yet he still spouts off all of his nonsense.
Hey now, I thought I was the biggest tool on APC.
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Old 01-16-2013 | 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by lolwut
Hey now, I thought I was the biggest tool on APC.
No. You just keep the pictures coming.
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