Pinnacle TA consequences forSkyWest/Expessjet
#142
I would vote no. If I were one of the 60% getting furloughed I'd vote "hell no". This job is hardly worth what I make now, much less a massive pay cut. I have a little self respect left. Pinnacle is full of Colgan guys so that explains quite a bit right there. They were used to slumming it. Peanuts for an 18 month upgrade right guys? Are the majors calling you yet?
For whatever reason you got to the new low Pinnacle is at, you're the new lowballers. Never again can any of you complain about Gojets. Gulfstream, Great Lakes or Mesa. $38 per hr max to fly a CRJ 900? You guys are an absolute disgrace! I know 500 hr FO's flying Lear jets making twice as much as you guys. Thanks for lowing the bar a little more for everyone else. You guys are proof this industry is hopeless.
For whatever reason you got to the new low Pinnacle is at, you're the new lowballers. Never again can any of you complain about Gojets. Gulfstream, Great Lakes or Mesa. $38 per hr max to fly a CRJ 900? You guys are an absolute disgrace! I know 500 hr FO's flying Lear jets making twice as much as you guys. Thanks for lowing the bar a little more for everyone else. You guys are proof this industry is hopeless.
#143
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Are you foolish enough to believe that the only possible way to pay your bills is to prostitute yourself to a crappy regional? If another 9-11 happened and you were on the street with no sign of hiring for years, I guess you would just go on welfare right?
#144
I know that now several of the winning ALPA pilots will chime in stating that this is not their fault. However, they will reap the benefits. This is why ALPA is a total failure.
#145
For that matter, if the Pinnacle brand ALPA property had voted down this TA, the winning ALPA property (let's call them the Mothership), would still have ultimately benefited and received profit sharing compensation, due to the removal or 140 CRJ-200s from the Mothership's balance books.
Meanwhile other ALPA properties would have reaped massive benefits from the signing of new CRJ-900 lift agreements, bringing huge seniority advancement and upgrade benefits to the winning ALPA properties, while having no obligation whatsoever to to a damn thing for the pilots at the losing ALPA property.
And yes, I am aware that the Pinnacle brand ALPA property's fleet does contain aircraft that were previously operated at the Mesa brand property, and nothing was done to help the Mesa ALPA pilots.
This industry stinks, and ALPA is not capable of doing what must be done to fix the underlying rot.
Meanwhile other ALPA properties would have reaped massive benefits from the signing of new CRJ-900 lift agreements, bringing huge seniority advancement and upgrade benefits to the winning ALPA properties, while having no obligation whatsoever to to a damn thing for the pilots at the losing ALPA property.
And yes, I am aware that the Pinnacle brand ALPA property's fleet does contain aircraft that were previously operated at the Mesa brand property, and nothing was done to help the Mesa ALPA pilots.
This industry stinks, and ALPA is not capable of doing what must be done to fix the underlying rot.
#146
The days of ALPA leadership are long gone. One ALPA property (the property which produced the current ALPA leadership) is going to benefit massively from what just happened at the regional ALPA property. Profits will be made, and distributed to the ALPA pilots at the winning company. Profits made off of the backs of the ALPA pilots at the losing company.
I know that now several of the winning ALPA pilots will chime in stating that this is not their fault. However, they will reap the benefits. This is why ALPA is a total failure.
I know that now several of the winning ALPA pilots will chime in stating that this is not their fault. However, they will reap the benefits. This is why ALPA is a total failure.
Flying should be back at mainline. Period. There will be growing pains associated with the shift, but taking a paycut is just one of them. I willingly admit that taking a 9% paycut at a regional and having a segway to a major is worth it. I want to retire at mainline, not Skywest, ExpressJet, Pinnacle etc. And when I get furloughed from our fleet reduction. Good! Bring the flying back mainline!
#147
I agree that all flying should be back at mainline. A useful union would find a solution to make this happen in a way that provided some meaningful transition assistance. The SSP does nothing for first officers.
#148
It's cute that you and everybody else on here criticizing pinnacle think that I give a shiny turd about you, your family, or your airline. I'm looking out for number 1.
#149
You have been at a bankrupt airline for over a year...many of your peers explaining why you voted yes is because the majority of you had no Plan B. Entitlement at its worst.
Pinnacle sucks.
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