XJT Whipsaw
01-16-2013 | 01:21 PM
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I don't have such a burning desire to fly an airplane that I would subject myself the the wages Pinnacle just voted in. I would rather watch my airline burn. I plan on getting out of the industry and maybe flight instruction part time for fun if we get Pinnacled. I find it sad most of you voted to come sit short call reserve for less than I made flight instructing. Delta isn't hiring this year. There is a excellent track record of flow throughs not working out. I think between Compass and Pinnacle there will be way more promises tan jobs for a long time even if Delta doesn't back out on their promises.
Congratulations on being such cheap *****s. To the Pinnacle guys who voted no, I'm truly sorry you are surrounded by weaklings.
Congratulations on being such cheap *****s. To the Pinnacle guys who voted no, I'm truly sorry you are surrounded by weaklings.
You can NOT say this with certainty. You simply can't until you've experienced the same situation.
01-16-2013 | 03:12 PM
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Just read your newest comm.
JCBA negotiations are on hold as all three parties take stock of their current positions. The new equipment process has no connection to JCBA negotiations. Any terms and conditions reached will only apply to Contract 2004. When a decision is made to return to the table and resume JCBA negotiations, we will redirect appropriate focus to the JCBA. Until that time, our primary focus will be completing the terms and conditions for new equipment.
I wanted to know why our negotiating committee wasn't meeting with the XJT guys and company. Turns out, the ASA MEC wants to to keep meeting but your side is more interested is getting a whipsaw going between our two carriers. How can your MEC actually believe that whatever comes out of this will not affect the joint contract? Would have made much more sense to have both groups in there to get a new 70 seat rate and have it become retroactive than to start this whipsaw BS. We need to be united and come out with one voice on what that rate will be instead of entertaining this obvious ruse by the company to divide us even more.
Unbelieveable.
JCBA negotiations are on hold as all three parties take stock of their current positions. The new equipment process has no connection to JCBA negotiations. Any terms and conditions reached will only apply to Contract 2004. When a decision is made to return to the table and resume JCBA negotiations, we will redirect appropriate focus to the JCBA. Until that time, our primary focus will be completing the terms and conditions for new equipment.
I wanted to know why our negotiating committee wasn't meeting with the XJT guys and company. Turns out, the ASA MEC wants to to keep meeting but your side is more interested is getting a whipsaw going between our two carriers. How can your MEC actually believe that whatever comes out of this will not affect the joint contract? Would have made much more sense to have both groups in there to get a new 70 seat rate and have it become retroactive than to start this whipsaw BS. We need to be united and come out with one voice on what that rate will be instead of entertaining this obvious ruse by the company to divide us even more.
Unbelieveable.
01-16-2013 | 03:22 PM
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This industry gets less and less desirable by the day.
01-16-2013 | 04:17 PM
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We both get to keep the systems we like this way...
01-16-2013 | 04:57 PM
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P.S. The bidding software and line vs PBS is only just a piece of the entire pie of why our unions are having problems getting along.
01-16-2013 | 05:23 PM
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That's what this forum portrays is the largest issue, but it's not. It's only a small issue, there are other items the 2 MEC's couldn't be farther apart on, most center around $.
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