Joe, the XJT MEC has said Flightline will not work for us, but we are willing to discuss ANY OTHER SYSTEM. ASA has said no. The company has said costs have gone up with flightline from even the line bidding days, they are willing to move forward with ANY OTHER PBS SYSTEM. ASA guys have said no. When ALPA national came down and put our MEC in one room and yours in another, they asked the ASA guys if they were willing to lose RFPs and possible growth oportunities if it meant standing their ground on flightline, their answer was YES. ALPA national reported back to the company saying there was nothing more to talk about, both sides stopped talking, the company requested we open up section 26 for new pay rates for larger aircraft. That IS what happened. What have I missed? What "record" needs to be "set straight"?

Don't bother feeding the troll. Like I've said before, a very great majority of ASA folks I've talk to are really great people, but with every airline you have your exceptions.

Yup, the ASA MEC is ready to hamper the careers of all its members again. You think they would have learned after the 17 900s went to Skywest back in 07.....

What you have missed is the company has said openly that they don't care what PBS system is used. The company does not object to Flightline and they never have, but they do object to vacation low which is a work rule along with a few other minor issues.

You consistently speak for the ASA MEC using rhetoric that I don't hear from them. I speak to my reps and an ASA MEC member regularly and they do not vomit disharmony or vitriol the way you like to portray them.

Since you are open to ANY OTHER PBS SYSTEM, why not adopt L-CAL's?

Things are really turning around in this industry, the GoJet guys are making fun of the other regionals now! All Pinnacle's fault, soon GoJet guys will be calling the rest of us bottom feeders.

Fyi. Legacy means : of, relating to, or being a previous or outdated.

When guys here say Legacy they are referring to the "old" or formerly known. When we call airlines Legacy such as AA is because of how long they've been in operation and compared to the competition they are Legacy or the remaining ones. But you work at GoJet so I am not expecting much out of you![/QUOTE]

The definition stands true legacy asa and expressjet wise. It's simply a pre merger statement as long as asa or expressjet are tagged on. However the generally accepted term as far as referring to a legacy airline refers to an airline who operated interstate routes prior to deregulation.

To my knowledge the company has not said that openly. Our union says the company said that, but the XJT MEC says otherwise. At this point I trust the XJT reps more. Afterall, if the company was on our side, they wouldn't be assisting XJT in SmartPref practice bids or negotiation large RJ rates with them. Flightline needs to go or Jerry will take his ball and go home.

SH has said this openly. The XJT MEC has openly bashed the ASA MEC in blast emails to their pilot group while the ASA MEC has refused to engage in the negative rhetoric. I prefer to trust the ASA MEC because they are behaving professionally in public.

The company is assisting XJT with Smart Pref because they want PBS. There is not ulterior motive there.

Im sorry...I forgot to add it cannot be a concession for either group. I thought thst should be assumed, my bad. In any case, im just telling you what happened, you can believe what you want.

Well, they are behaving extremely unproffesionally in negotiations. Take that for what its worth.