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MR JT8D 01-18-2013 09:33 AM

XJT is an isolated pilot group with obsolete aircraft. A sinking ship at best. Any new aircraft hopes is just to keep the pilots on the property as long as possible and extract as much profit as possible out of the aging fleet.

The company just loves this kind of stuff between the pilot groups.

JetBlast77 01-18-2013 09:44 AM


Originally Posted by MR JT8D (Post 1333529)
XJT is an isolated pilot group with obsolete aircraft. A sinking ship at best. Any new aircraft hopes is just to keep the pilots on the property as long as possible and extract as much profit as possible out of the aging fleet.

The company just loves this kind of stuff between the pilot groups.

Lol...i love the guys who come on here with zero knowledge of whats going on. Just have a seat and relax.

MR JT8D 01-18-2013 10:55 AM

No new aircraft, no contract, no merger, and still taking concessions....

Is that enough?

johnso29 01-18-2013 11:14 AM


Originally Posted by MR JT8D (Post 1333582)
No new aircraft, no contract, no merger, and still taking concessions....

Is that enough?

And with their concession pay rates they're still smoking just about every other 50 seat operator(and sadly most 70+ seat operators). Maybe you should take notes. :D

xjtguy 01-18-2013 11:16 AM


Originally Posted by MR JT8D (Post 1333582)
No new aircraft, no contract, no merger, and still taking concessions....

Is that enough?

Can you define the bold part?

Weird, the only one I remember was in 2008 (voted NO).

When were the other concessions? What were the multiple LOA's/MOU's that have come since that improved the ERJ CBA?

Redundant Guy 01-18-2013 11:26 AM


Originally Posted by xjtguy (Post 1333597)
Can you define the bold part?

Weird, the only one I remember was in 2008 (voted NO).

When were the other concessions? What were the multiple LOA's/MOU's that have come since that improved the ERJ CBA?

Go read Section 26 of your contract. Your contract fails to protect you against concessionary or bankruptcy rates being used in arbitration. Furthermore, your MEC can shrug and point at the arbitrator. What they do not want to you know is that they asked the company to do this.

JetBlast77 01-18-2013 11:45 AM


Originally Posted by Redundant Guy (Post 1333606)
Go read Section 26 of your contract. Your contract fails to protect you against concessionary or bankruptcy rates being used in arbitration. Furthermore, your MEC can shrug and point at the arbitrator. What they do not want to you know is that they asked the company to do this.

Seriously where do you guys come up with this stuff? Im just going to let the next few months speak for itself.

newarkblows 01-18-2013 11:50 AM


Originally Posted by MR JT8D (Post 1333529)
XJT is an isolated pilot group with obsolete aircraft. A sinking ship at best. Any new aircraft hopes is just to keep the pilots on the property as long as possible and extract as much profit as possible out of the aging fleet.

The company just loves this kind of stuff between the pilot groups.


I don't think you quite understand our contract with United or the entire reason for Skywest purchasing us. Haters gonna hate.


Originally Posted by MR JT8D (Post 1215943)
Best thing you can do is sell Sky West's stock short....... like that didn't happen the last 6 months. And what is the company trying to do...... get you to buy the junk stock at a whopping 5% discount!!!!!! Sell it short........... take the money and buy a type in a corporate jet....

You posted this 6/21/2012. Skyw stock closed at $6.74 on that day and today it closed at $13.60. I really hope you shorted the stock.

Redundant Guy 01-18-2013 12:23 PM


Originally Posted by JetBlast77 (Post 1333615)
Seriously where do you guys come up with this stuff? Im just going to let the next few months speak for itself.

Quite simple. Let the next few months speak for themselves? Do you support you MEC trying to undercut another that they are supposed to working with?

captain beefy 01-18-2013 12:37 PM


Originally Posted by newarkblows (Post 1333617)
I don't think you quite understand our contract with United or the entire reason for Skywest purchasing us. Haters gonna hate.


You posted this 6/21/2012. Skyw stock closed at $6.74 on that day and today it closed at $13.60. I really hope you shorted the stock.

Relevance and factual information have NO place on this board!


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