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#132
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No, the crack pipe is a joke. Anyone who attempts to have a serious conversation over there is seriously fooling themselves. Especially if they take my trolling over there seriously. Regardless, your personal attack did nothing to rebut my statement, and added nothing to this conversation. You lose. 

#133
It's funny how you changed your tune to "trolling" once everyone found out who you were. Personal attack? Give me a break. You just personally attacked all pinnacle pilots while you yourself have said that the L-XJT pilot group's contract demands are too much. So who's bending over?
And yes, I did attack the PCL pilots, but only 85% of them. As to your other accusation, I definitely thought your demands for 20% raises (full snap back to 2004 with retro pay) plus your current work rules was too much. Your MEC dropped that demand well over a year ago, and again, notice I stopped saying it. My only problem with your group right now is you following McKNapoleon off a cliff with his asinine globalized PBS scheme.
Give up. You can't defeat me.
#134
Yes. I did change my tune. Because it stopped being fun watching you fools foam at the mouth over my flamebait, and started getting too serious. Notice I don't waste my time over there much anymore either.
And yes, I did attack the PCL pilots, but only 85% of them. As to your other accusation, I definitely thought your demands for 20% raises (full snap back to 2004 with retro pay) plus your current work rules was too much. Your MEC dropped that demand well over a year ago, and again, notice I stopped saying it. My only problem with your group right now is you following McKNapoleon off a cliff with his asinine globalized PBS scheme.
Give up. You can't defeat me.
And yes, I did attack the PCL pilots, but only 85% of them. As to your other accusation, I definitely thought your demands for 20% raises (full snap back to 2004 with retro pay) plus your current work rules was too much. Your MEC dropped that demand well over a year ago, and again, notice I stopped saying it. My only problem with your group right now is you following McKNapoleon off a cliff with his asinine globalized PBS scheme.
Give up. You can't defeat me.

Oh wait, expressjet was bought what two months after pinnacle bought mesaba? Sounds like yall screwed yourself big time. You could have had a contract way before pinnacle lowered the bar. Now you have to be cost competive, maybe even be cheaper than pinnacle (Go Jets, Compass). Enjoy the rest of your career CAPTAIN tony!
#135
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From: FO
Annddddddd another thread ruined. Go bicker somewhere else this is XJT pool I'm sure all the guys actually in the pool are scared now because of you idiots. Most of the pilots are great here but you'll always have to A holes everywhere you go
Hope you guys who get the call don't take this for how things are, congrats and hope to see you soon!
Hope you guys who get the call don't take this for how things are, congrats and hope to see you soon!
#136
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Joined: Jul 2007
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From: In favor of good things, not in favor of bad things
No, the crack pipe is a joke. Anyone who attempts to have a serious conversation over there is seriously fooling themselves. Especially if they take my trolling over there seriously. Regardless, your personal attack did nothing to rebut my statement, and added nothing to this conversation. You lose. 

#139
If I were in management, I'd hire them. You know they will always be ready to bend over. Not only that, the rate they voted in can now be imposed on them at their new airline, and they can't complain.
That's what the '89 Eastern hires said too.
I have no sympathy for the Pinnacle pilots. In an act of greed, they screwed all of us, buying themselves an extra 6 months and a $2500 package if they were junior, or shiny new airplanes if they were senior. And since it passed by a pathetic 85%, the odds are with it that he voted yes. Of course if you ask them, they all swear they voted no.
That's what the '89 Eastern hires said too.
I have no sympathy for the Pinnacle pilots. In an act of greed, they screwed all of us, buying themselves an extra 6 months and a $2500 package if they were junior, or shiny new airplanes if they were senior. And since it passed by a pathetic 85%, the odds are with it that he voted yes. Of course if you ask them, they all swear they voted no.

You don't know people's reasons to vote the way they did. I got no beef with Yes voters, I disagree with them, but I respect their decision.
It's just waaay too easy to ask a different pilot group to risk it when you have nothing at stake in it. You're just on the sideline hoping 9E risks it regardless what happens to them, because you know you're next. You care only about YOUR job just as all the yes voters cared about theirs, I can't fault anybody for that, even if its a result of scare tactics by management, it's his/her prerogative. Just quit hating on a pilot group just because they didn't start fighting your fight.
I sure as h*ll didn't hear other alpa groups or pilots from other airlines say "hey, stand up against management, we got ur back financially and we'll make sure everybody gets employed and food is still on your table for your kids in case y'all get wound down, we got you..." Sounds crazy, doesn't it? Every single 9E pilot knew they where on their own, and voted accordingly. The regional industry can't fault 9E for anything, this industry's problems go way beyond 9E.
Oh, and this new thing about not taking 9E jumpseaters has got to stop. It's sad, childish and embarrassing...
#140
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