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Old 01-30-2013 | 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Purple Drank
Here's what I've decided:
1) The only pilot group Delta Air Lines should be negotiating with is Delta pilots.
2) Pinnacle's MEC purposely and maliciously cut DALPA out of the negotiations. If Pinnacle pilots said, "hey, Delta, we'd like DALPA to be here," no way that request would have been denied.
3) If you can't understand why this is a bad precedent going forward, I have some oceanfront property to sell you.
4) Your actions will have adverse consequences on your career.
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5) The pilots who do get hired at Delta (if any do) will have to overcome the black cloud over their heads as a result of their choices.
Shady?.. yes
but:
2) your own union (headed by one of your pilots) chose to cut you out of the negotiations as well.
5) doubt it.
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Old 01-30-2013 | 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Purple Drank
Here's what I've decided:
1) The only pilot group Delta Air Lines should be negotiating with is Delta pilots.
2) Pinnacle's MEC purposely and maliciously cut DALPA out of the negotiations. If Pinnacle pilots said, "hey, Delta, we'd like DALPA to be here," no way that request would have been denied.
3) If you can't understand why this is a bad precedent going forward, I have some oceanfront property to sell you.
4) Your actions will have adverse consequences on your career.
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5) The pilots who do get hired at Delta (if any do) will have to overcome the black cloud over their heads as a result of their choices.
What are you so worried about?
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Old 01-30-2013 | 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Purple Drank
Here's what I've decided:
1) The only pilot group Delta Air Lines should be negotiating with is Delta pilots.
2) Pinnacle's MEC purposely and maliciously cut DALPA out of the negotiations. If Pinnacle pilots said, "hey, Delta, we'd like DALPA to be here," no way that request would have been denied.
3) If you can't understand why this is a bad precedent going forward, I have some oceanfront property to sell you.
4) Your actions will have adverse consequences on your career.
and
5) The pilots who do get hired at Delta (if any do) will have to overcome the black cloud over their heads as a result of their choices.
Think u drank too much of ur own stuff
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Old 01-30-2013 | 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by BIGRIG
Do we know for sure DALPA wasn't asked? But said "No that's fine. We don't need to be there."?
Yes. They were completely unaware of the negotiations. I've verified that with the MEC.
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Old 01-30-2013 | 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by legend
What are you so worried about?
The main concern is that if DAL management is comfortable doing this, they may not have a problem doing the same when it comes to negotiating the shared flying with Virgin Atlantic. What precedent does it set?
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Old 01-30-2013 | 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
Yes. They were completely unaware of the negotiations. I've verified that with the MEC.
Our mec chair and your mec chair talked about it so they knew. I verified that as well.
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Old 01-30-2013 | 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by legend
Our mec chair and your mec chair talked about it so they knew. I verified that as well.
He forgot to tell the rest of the MEC, then.
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Old 01-31-2013 | 01:50 AM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
He forgot to tell the rest of the MEC, then.
I heard he told his dog.
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Old 01-31-2013 | 03:13 AM
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Originally Posted by johnso29
The main concern is that if DAL management is comfortable doing this, they may not have a problem doing the same when it comes to negotiating the shared flying with Virgin Atlantic. What precedent does it set?
So, what has DALPA done to teach Delta - whoa, better not try that again?
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Old 01-31-2013 | 03:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Purple Drank
Here's what I've decided:
1) The only pilot group Delta Air Lines should be negotiating with is Delta pilots.
Totally agree but you all sold out on scope a long time ago. Now sleep in the bed YOU made.

2) Pinnacle's MEC purposely and maliciously cut DALPA out of the negotiations. If Pinnacle pilots said, "hey, Delta, we'd like DALPA to be here," no way that request would have been denied.
This is your conspiracy theory. Until I see an email from DALPA agreeing with your conspiracy theory. I'll file this in the cabinet next to the Sandy Hook crisis actors, file.
3) If you can't understand why this is a bad precedent going forward, I have some oceanfront property to sell you.
Refer to my response to question 1
4) Your actions will have adverse consequences on your career.
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It's a better action than when you sold out your scope. I've been here over 13 years. The SSP will take 3+ years to get to my seniority number. It was a useless gesture on Delta's part. I'll be at another company long before I get the opportunity to be at your blessed Delta.
5) The pilots who do get hired at Delta (if any do) will have to overcome the black cloud over their heads as a result of their choices.
The black cloud will only be associated with the 1 per-centers like yourself. I have been in this industry too long to give a **** about you being a little grump in the left seat. My friends that have flowed have never met anyone with your attitude. As I stated, you're the 1 per-center of the group that everyone else has to deal with.
Please remember to write up every Pinnacle pilot you ever fly with. That way your CP can see the problem is really you.
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