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01-31-2013 | 06:11 AM
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There are probably more pilots at Delta that have never heard of Pinnacle than actually care about this bridge agreement. I also have a hard time believing any mature professional aviator is going to give any Pinnacle pilot a hard time regardless of how this all went down.
01-31-2013 | 07:04 AM
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Sounds like National dropped the ball.
Glad to see that professionalism is alive and well.
01-31-2013 | 07:05 AM
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01-31-2013 | 08:01 AM
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01-31-2013 | 08:25 AM
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Furthermore, Delta has no standing to exert the same kind of power over VS as it does with us. DL wants/needs VS because they want/need acces to Heathrow. They can't whipsaw VS with anyone else. DL doesn't need Pinnacle, per se. We are quite disposable. That being said, since we will now be a wholly owned subsidiary again, does DL not have the right to negotiate with our MEC directly?
01-31-2013 | 08:42 AM
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Here's what I've decided:
1) The only pilot group Delta Air Lines should be negotiating with is Delta pilots.
2) Pinnacle's MEC purposely and maliciously cut DALPA out of the negotiations. If Pinnacle pilots said, "hey, Delta, we'd like DALPA to be here," no way that request would have been denied.
3) If you can't understand why this is a bad precedent going forward, I have some oceanfront property to sell you.
4) Your actions will have adverse consequences on your career.
and
5) The pilots who do get hired at Delta (if any do) will have to overcome the black cloud over their heads as a result of their choices.
1) The only pilot group Delta Air Lines should be negotiating with is Delta pilots.
2) Pinnacle's MEC purposely and maliciously cut DALPA out of the negotiations. If Pinnacle pilots said, "hey, Delta, we'd like DALPA to be here," no way that request would have been denied.
3) If you can't understand why this is a bad precedent going forward, I have some oceanfront property to sell you.
4) Your actions will have adverse consequences on your career.
and
5) The pilots who do get hired at Delta (if any do) will have to overcome the black cloud over their heads as a result of their choices.
2) That is complete BS!!! And it makes no sense whatsoever as there is nothing to be gained by doing so.
3) Be that as it may, the sky isn't falling. Get better language in your own CBA if you're that concerned.
4) Some food for thought; every Pinnacle pilot's career doesn't include Delta. Consider that before you start spouting off about consequences.
And...
5) If by black cloud, you mean you stewing in your left seat because an ex Pinnacle pilot is sitting next to you, fine. Pout until your heart's content. Just dont get into a "heated argument" about it and fly past your destination airport or anything.
01-31-2013 | 12:00 PM
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Purple Drank is verrrry junior. He won't be seeing a DL left seat until almost when the 9E SSP people have it available to them.
He's also permanently angry. A pile of DL people have him on their ignore list.
He's also permanently angry. A pile of DL people have him on their ignore list.
01-31-2013 | 07:00 PM
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So remind me again how it wouldn't hurt Delta pilots if we owed 5-7 years of wages to PNCL pilots? I can't wait for the GoJet high fiving when they take your 81 900s and "The Closer" is their COO.
Enjoy Ryan. He's a good guy.
Enjoy Ryan. He's a good guy.
01-31-2013 | 07:25 PM
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01-31-2013 | 07:25 PM
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