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Old 02-16-2013 | 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Captain Tony
Actually, they don't have to be down to 125 50 seaters until taking delivery of the 223rd 76 seater. Bet you they only get 222 of them. Oops.
Correct. But as soon as they exceed 153 76 seaters, 50 seaters must be removed at the ratio shown below.

1) 2.7 50 seat aircraft for each of the first additional ten 76-seat aircraft (above 153)

2) 2.7 50-seat aircraft for each of the next additional ten 76-seat aircraft (above 163)

3) 2.8 50-seat aircraft for each of the next additional ten 76-seat aircraft (above 173)

4) 2.9 50-seat aircraft for each of the next additional ten 76-seat aircraft (above 183)

5) 3.0 50-seat aircraft for each of the next additional ten 76-seat aircraft (above 193)

6) 3.1 50-seat aircraft for each of the next additional ten 76-seat aircraft (above 203)

7) 4.6 50-seat aircraft for each of the next additional ten 76-seat aircraft (above 213)

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Old 02-16-2013 | 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Captain Tony
And? That contributed absolutely nothing to this discussion except to pump your ego by bragging that you're some union insider "big shot". Are you saying that they ARE going to furlough because the -200s ARE really leaving? Or are you just attacking me for saying something you didn't like, regardless of whether it's true or not?

I think you guys screwed yourselves since you had from February 2011 until almost Christmas of 2012 to get a contract.

The 2011 JCBA that Pinnacle signed, was, thanks to a real negotiating team consisting of Mesaba pilots, one of the fastest negotiated contracts in ALPA history. Of course, then you guys could not agree on PBS.

This is America though, where failures are always someone else's fault.
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Old 02-16-2013 | 12:00 PM
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Oh, you mean they bluffed you guys into taking a massive pay cut (and screwing the rest of us) after all? Say it ain't so! Enjoy that 7 year contract at the bottom of the industry.
Awe that's adorable.
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Old 02-16-2013 | 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by cencal83406
I think you guys screwed yourselves since you had from February 2011 until almost Christmas of 2012 to get a contract.

The 2011 JCBA that Pinnacle signed, was, thanks to a real negotiating team consisting of Mesaba pilots, one of the fastest negotiated contracts in ALPA history. Of course, then you guys could not agree on PBS.

This is America though, where failures are always someone else's fault.
first and last sentences are correct, but let's be realistic about something....the only reason we got the joint contract so fast was because 1. 9e had already been through 6 years of negotiations, 2. The company needed the combined list, and 3. they knew it would be null and void within a year. Not because XJ was a dream team.
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Old 02-16-2013 | 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by gojo
Don't worry, you'll get you 717's and mad dogs, and we'll shrink as you want
Ok............
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Old 02-16-2013 | 12:07 PM
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didn't realize paying 1.95% and getting a magazine and occasional sticker/luggage tag made me a insider big shot, but thanks. Or do you not know how to read and you think I had dinner with them? ...pumping my ego? Pot meet kettle.
I can read just fine. Your passive-aggressive rant was attempting to make you look like you had inside info, when in reality you're a poor line schmuck like the rest of us. The difference, is that I wouldn't vote in a pay cut.
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Old 02-16-2013 | 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by johnso29
Correct. But as soon as they exceed 153 76 seaters, 50 seaters must be removed at the ratio shown below.

1) 2.7 50 seat aircraft for each of the first additional ten 76-seat aircraft (above 153)

2) 2.7 50-seat aircraft for each of the next additional ten 76-seat aircraft (above 163)

3) 2.8 50-seat aircraft for each of the next additional ten 76-seat aircraft (above 173)

4) 2.9 50-seat aircraft for each of the next additional ten 76-seat aircraft (above 183)

5) 3.0 50-seat aircraft for each of the next additional ten 76-seat aircraft (above 193)

6) 3.1 50-seat aircraft for each of the next additional ten 76-seat aircraft (above 203)

7) 4.6 50-seat aircraft for each of the next additional ten 76-seat aircraft (above 213)
How many 76 seaters are there today in DAL paint?
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Old 02-16-2013 | 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Captain Tony
How many 76 seaters are there today in DAL paint?
Last count I had was 153. IDK if that has changed with the 16 CRJ900s being removed from 9Es fleet.
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Old 02-16-2013 | 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Captain Tony
I can read just fine. Your passive-aggressive rant was attempting to make you look like you had inside info, when in reality you're a poor line schmuck like the rest of us. The difference, is that I wouldn't vote in a pay cut.
my point exactly. It was not meant to make me look like I had inside info, where you came up with that is beyond me. You didn't have any info either, so don't tell us what we should have done. Look at 97% of your posts and tell me who is king of aggressive rants?
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Old 02-16-2013 | 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by johnso29
Originally Posted by Captain Tony
How many 76 seaters are there today in DAL paint?
Last count I had was 153. IDK if that has changed with the 16 CRJ900s being removed from 9Es fleet.
The 16 9E -900s are just changing hands. The fleet count for Delta overall should stay the same.
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