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Old 02-18-2013 | 03:12 PM
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Pinnacle just stopped paying for the LIDO subscription... JEPPS come back in 60-90 days. And yes while I hate to admit it... Mesaba did and is still making massive changes for the good. AQP will be coming soon as well. Aside from voting in this dump of a contract this place actually will start to look like an airline and not some crappy 135 outfit.
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Old 02-18-2013 | 03:22 PM
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Things will get even better when we start mooching of the Delta stuff in the new HQ.
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Old 02-18-2013 | 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by PCLCREW
Pinnacle just stopped paying for the LIDO subscription... JEPPS come back in 60-90 days. And yes while I hate to admit it... Mesaba did and is still making massive changes for the good. AQP will be coming soon as well. Aside from voting in this dump of a contract this place actually will start to look like an airline and not some crappy 135 outfit.
While I agree with you about Jepps being better than Lido, I have to disagree with you on the "massive changes for the good". Pinnacle has always done things on the cheap, but so has Mesaba. Pinnacle originally switched from Jepps to Lido because they were planning on going to the electronic flight bag version of Lido, and they saved thousands of dollars in the process. This whole plan came days away from being signed off on by the then current CEO Sean Menke. All the testing and approval of the FAA had been completed, Pinnacle just needed the upper managements to sign off on purchasing the Ipads. I would way rather have an Ipad lido subscription rather than paper Jepps. Oh well, its all water under the bridge now.
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Old 02-18-2013 | 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by CAPTAINPCL
While I agree with you about Jepps being better than Lido, I have to disagree with you on the "massive changes for the good". Pinnacle has always done things on the cheap, but so has Mesaba. Pinnacle originally switched from Jepps to Lido because they were planning on going to the electronic flight bag version of Lido, and they saved thousands of dollars in the process. This whole plan came days away from being signed off on by the then current CEO Sean Menke. All the testing and approval of the FAA had been completed, Pinnacle just needed the upper managements to sign off on purchasing the Ipads. I would way rather have an Ipad lido subscription rather than paper Jepps. Oh well, its all water under the bridge now.
this, plus we were already in the AQP process.....that is not something new that XJ brought to the table. the process stopped with the merger and XJ got the responsibility of re-developing it.
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Old 02-18-2013 | 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by mooney
this, plus we were already in the AQP process.....that is not something new that XJ brought to the table. the process stopped with the merger and XJ got the responsibility of re-developing it.
Admit it.

XJ is better!
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Old 02-18-2013 | 04:51 PM
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Did anyone really believe that cheapo Pinnacle was going to get iPads for everyone?
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Old 02-18-2013 | 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Bartok
Admit it.

XJ is better!
sometimes I like to spike the kool aid with a dose of reality See ya in the D....
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Old 02-18-2013 | 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Bartok
Admit it.

XJ is better!
It's obvious. I like where this merger is going. Giggity.
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Old 02-19-2013 | 05:18 AM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
Did anyone really believe that cheapo Pinnacle was going to get iPads for everyone?
No I never did... And to add to that, while Pinnacle was in the process of trying to get AQP it like many other things was put on hold... It seems like Mesaba has come in and are taking these halfway finished projects and are completing them.
I never thought iPads would show up on property, and as we can see they never did and frankly I don't think they or any EFB will show up for a long time.
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Old 02-19-2013 | 06:27 AM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
Did anyone really believe that cheapo Pinnacle was going to get iPads for everyone?
In their defense, it was close. As mentioned, all approvals an the FAA were taken care if, it was just a matter of final signoff. I remember in that timeframe two CA line checks, an the checkairman had the IPad with the charts loaded. All checkairman had it, and it was gonna happen before everything went down the toilet.
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