Not anti-airline, just anti-airline management. I have more information about Eagle since I know people who work there, opposed to someplace like Mesa (are they even around anymore?)

 

Just an FYI, I'd probably do away with the Facebook group if I were you. It not only gives away your own identity, but also those that are members of the group, even to people not part of the group. I'd be more worried about retaliation over it.

Stick with the petition website, which is more anonymous for outsiders.


No dog in this fight at all, just an outside suggestion.

 

Actually, cancel what I said about the petition having anonymity to the outside public... just realized that it does in fact show the creators name as well.

 

If one doesnt want to join. They dont have to ask the administrator to join them. And if they dont like it they can remove themselves from the group.

I dont care about my identity. I told TG and DR to resign via email.

 

Do you plan on passing around an actual petition to sign since many of our pilots probably don't come on here?

 

Who cares about being anonymous. It's not our management were going after and were not breaking any company rules. This is strictly a matter inside the pilot group. Last I checked no union can fire an employee. I wouldn't be a member if they didn't take my money regardless.

 

210+ signatures so far

 

just an interesting FYI technicality, the union can tell the company to fire you for failure to pay dues. You can request to come off auto dues and have them send you a bill. I think its 2-3 months of non payment before you will get fired..

 

The petition is internet based dude. R u telling us that pilots won't be able to sign on to the Internet via a library. Company computer. Hotel computer. Smart phone. What's a pencil and paper anymore, anyways!

Link: Recall Tony Gutierrez & Dave Ryter as ALPA AE MEC Representatives Petition The link doesn't say a #2 pencil is required.

 

And the shots are firing back and forth!!!


Wednesday, February 27, 2012



LEC 133 NewsBlast
Fellow American Eagle Chicago Pilots:


Last week, the DFW and New York local representatives sent an email to their councils accusing the MEC Chairman of an inappropriate expense reimbursement. Until now, Rxxn and I have elected to stay out of this kind of petty foolishness and instead, focus on representing Eagle pilots' best interests. Unfortunately, someone has to set the record straight so that the American Eagle pilots can understand what kinds of individuals are making these accusations.


First, please understand the following; the MEC is a body that functions by the will of the majority. In other words, every member gets to speak their mind and cast their vote, but at the end of the day the will of the majority rules.


For the record, the DFW and New York reps were opposed to the TA reached in 2011 regarding the divestiture and were either opposed to the bankruptcy TA in 2012 or chose not to vote on the issue at all by way of an abstention. This does not make them bad or good, it simply means that they were in the minority and were overruled by the will of the majority of the MEC. Keep in mind also that the MEC Chairman and Vice Chairman don't vote; so when I say they were overruled by the majority of the MEC, I am speaking of the other duly elected leaders of their respective domiciles.


I too have been overruled on a number of occasions. Sometimes it is very disappointing or frustrating, but I respect the will of the majority.


Confirming the will of the majority was the fact that 85% of our pilots voted and 75% of them voted "Yes" to the bankruptcy TA. In other words, the system of representation and the will of the majority worked.


Who I have zero respect for are the four reps in New York and DFW who have made it their mission to destroy the credibility of this MEC at every turn simply because they did not get their way with their political agenda. MEC elections are this August, and those making the accusations are demanding MEC officer resignations or they will keep making the accusations. Apparently, they cannot even wait until August to try to accomplish their political agenda.


The accusers have anything but a clean record.


Last year, the Captain Representative of Council 121 falsified an expense report and claimed that he drove to and from a meeting in Washington D.C. when in fact, he jump-seated at no cost. When discovered, this representative was confronted individually, at which time he lied to those confronting him. He was then presented with proof by a larger group, at which time he lied again. Only then was it brought before the MEC and surprisingly he lied again. Finally, when the MEC was presented with overwhelming evidence of this fraud, this representative admitted that he did in fact falsify the expense report. The MEC directed him to repay the amount he stole and admit this fraud to the pilots who elected him. He never did so. Guess who ran to his defense? The other New York and DFW representatives.


Why would they assist in his defense for something that was obviously wrong? Well maybe it is because they have similar morals. It was not that long ago when the DFW Captain representative instructed the new DFW First officer representative, who is now the Negotiating Chairman, that the way to get reimbursed for expenses ALPA does not allow reimbursement for is to claim them as office supplies, because the Finance Department has no way of verifying the validity of that expense.


A few weeks ago, it was discovered that for the past two years, the current MEC Secretary-Treasurer had rejected his company paid hotel room for recurrent training and instead, stayed in a union paid hotel, costing the MEC and the pilots hundreds of dollars. This was brought to the MEC's attention, and the MEC amended policy to ensure that this kind of behavior could not again occur without the approval of another officer. Guess who rushed to the MEC Secretary Treasurer's defense and voted against the new policy? That's right, the very individual who falsified the earlier expense report.


If you have a question about an expense, I would challenge you to call the individual who is being accused and ask him directly. I am sickened by those who claim to be trade unionists but instead, use all of their energy to trash others who volunteer to serve the pilots. This is especially true in a time where we have just inked a historic bankruptcy agreement that should place Eagle on solid footing for the next eight years, we are in the middle of negotiating PBS and AQP, and we are beginning to see over a dozen arbitration victories pay off as Eagle pilots once again begin transferring to AA. Our new 133 reps have a lot of work ahead of them and it is truly a shame that certain members of the MEC have chosen to make petty internal bickering their primary focus, rather than the needs of the pilots they were elected to represent.


I absolutely despise writing this letter because it makes it appear that all union volunteers behave in this manner, when in fact most of your volunteers behave with the highest morals, and utmost faithfulness and respect for the pilots they represent.


I am in my last days before turning Council 133 over to the very capable hands of Captain Glxxna. But I simply cannot leave this job while those who behave with the least morals and least maturity are allowed to trash those who have sacrificed unbelievable time and effort during the most difficult period in our history. I am proud of the improvements I achieved while serving as your elected representative. One of the biggest achievements was getting the right team elected into the higher positions of our Union when the “crap was about to hit the fan”.


It has been one of the finest pleasures in my professional life to serve the Chicago pilots over the past few years. It is my greatest wish that you have faith in the volunteers who sacrifice so much personally for the benefit of the pilot group as a whole. And it is also my sincere hope that you will be able to distinguish between those who work so diligently toward this end versus the few who use ALPA for their own personal and petty gain, and to slander the association and the volunteers who represent you. It would benefit you greatly to disregard the current New York and DFW representatives, for very few things that they say or publish have any validity at all. It would be better if the pilots that elected them held these representatives accountable for their own actions.


Fraternally,





Fxxxk Kxxxxxa
133 CA Rep
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