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Old 03-08-2013 | 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by 680crewchief
This is awesome. The Regional business model is about to finally get what it deserves...new hires saying 'f off'!
When RAH offered me the job with the 24 month ball and chain I asked "why"? They said all the regional airlines would have the same policy before long.

As I'm walking out the door I'm thinking "until that happens...have fun being here by yourself".
Old 03-08-2013 | 05:04 PM
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Doesn't Eagle have a union? Can't that union say "no bonus thank you, attract new hires with the wage package you negotitated or negotiate a new one"
That's the problem, they won't, nor have they ever paid new hires worth a damn. You can thank the senior guys for that.
Old 03-08-2013 | 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by JetRage
When RAH offered me the job with the 24 month ball and chain I asked "why"? They said all the regional airlines would have the same policy before long.

As I'm walking out the door I'm thinking "until that happens...have fun being here by yourself".
Yeah, if the regionals really want to attract qualified people they need to raise first year pay, offer signing bonuses, and drop the training contacts.
Old 03-08-2013 | 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by CoATP
Doesn't Eagle have a union? Can't that union say "no bonus thank you, attract new hires with the wage package you negotitated or negotiate a new one"
Ha
Hahaha
Bwahahahahahahahaha!

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Old 03-08-2013 | 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Red Forman
Yeah, if the regionals really want to attract qualified people they need to raise first year pay, offer signing bonuses, and drop the training contacts.
I was under the impression AE didn't have a training contract, or is that just if you take the bonus? I wont be taking the bonus if I get hired.

That being said, a lot of the discussion here is making me a little leery.
Old 03-08-2013 | 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Lobaeux
I was under the impression AE didn't have a training contract, or is that just if you take the bonus? I wont be taking the bonus if I get hired.

That being said, a lot of the discussion here is making me a little leery.
How about take the bonus, put it in a savings account then if you leave just give the pro-rated amount back. If you don't leave, or you get laid off you get to keep the beer vouchers.

Better than Republics, " we'll give you $5,000 to join us, but you have to pay us $20,000 if you want to leave, oh, and if we cancel a flight for whatever reason, we will pay you jack shiznit!"
Old 03-08-2013 | 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Ultralight
How about take the bonus, put it in a savings account then if you leave just give the pro-rated amount back. If you don't leave, or you get laid off you get to keep the beer vouchers.

Better than Republics, " we'll give you $5,000 to join us, but you have to pay us $20,000 if you want to leave, oh, and if we cancel a flight for whatever reason, we will pay you jack shiznit!"
Ah, if it's pro-rated, that's a different story.
Old 03-08-2013 | 06:36 PM
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Recruitment is one part of the equation...retention is the other.

Regional airlines are and will be behind the eight ball on the first, and interestingly rely on the second to keep labor costs low. That is, until you can't recruit enough to replace those who leave, then retention becomes more important...
Old 03-08-2013 | 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by BoilerUP
Recruitment is one part of the equation...retention is the other.

Regional airlines are and will be behind the eight ball on the first, and interestingly rely on the second to keep labor costs low. That is, until you can't recruit enough to replace those who leave, then retention becomes more important...
I completely agree, and as most guys are broke at that point in their career a few thousand bucks could be the answer to all thieir problems. Even if they have to sign their life away for it.

Thing is, once they realize they have had their pants taken down and want to jump ship, they're stuck in the mud.

Kind of like the fat bald guy in the white van offering small children candy!
Old 03-08-2013 | 08:08 PM
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First year pay did go up, by $5,000 dollars!!!
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