Holding ASA and XJT MEC's accountable
03-29-2013 | 05:27 AM
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Tony...That's not a real solution. There are great benefits of a successful merger for both pilot groups and the company as well. It would be silly for us to not work toward one pilot group.
One problem is that the MECs become detached from the pilot groups. The negotiations quickly turn to ****ing match with the only interest is winning the battle and the desires of the pilot group falls by the wayside.
Maybe another option could be to increase the number of members of negotiating group. Why do we have a such a small group representing such a large number of pilots. More members could equal a more fair representation of the pilot group. Then a 2/3 majority wins the issue and we move on
Just trying to think of solutions....
One problem is that the MECs become detached from the pilot groups. The negotiations quickly turn to ****ing match with the only interest is winning the battle and the desires of the pilot group falls by the wayside.
Maybe another option could be to increase the number of members of negotiating group. Why do we have a such a small group representing such a large number of pilots. More members could equal a more fair representation of the pilot group. Then a 2/3 majority wins the issue and we move on
Just trying to think of solutions....
03-29-2013 | 05:30 AM
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And what you said isn't even really true. Management had previously said they hated vacation low, but other than that, didn't care what PBS system we used as long as it fit the cost parameters. Then McK showed Courtney H how much money SmartPref could save her by constraining the line values, and the company was sold. Another hand grenade he lobbed into these "negotiations".
03-29-2013 | 08:45 AM
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Greater transparency on expenditures would also be nice. It would really be interesting to see where some of our 2% goes. I know we have a right to see for ourselves where this money is going. There is actually a group of Amereican Eagle pilots auditing their own union reps, and finding some interesting things. I think this needs to be done here also. It's our money, we have every right to see how it's being spent.
All in all this stuff takes time and know how. Like you I have no idea what the process is like, which is part of the problem.
03-29-2013 | 09:28 AM
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Tony...That's not a real solution. There are great benefits of a successful merger for both pilot groups and the company as well. It would be silly for us to not work toward one pilot group.
One problem is that the MECs become detached from the pilot groups. The negotiations quickly turn to ****ing match with the only interest is winning the battle and the desires of the pilot group falls by the wayside.
Maybe another option could be to increase the number of members of negotiating group. Why do we have a such a small group representing such a large number of pilots. More members could equal a more fair representation of the pilot group. Then a 2/3 majority wins the issue and we move on
Just trying to think of solutions....
One problem is that the MECs become detached from the pilot groups. The negotiations quickly turn to ****ing match with the only interest is winning the battle and the desires of the pilot group falls by the wayside.
Maybe another option could be to increase the number of members of negotiating group. Why do we have a such a small group representing such a large number of pilots. More members could equal a more fair representation of the pilot group. Then a 2/3 majority wins the issue and we move on
Just trying to think of solutions....
03-29-2013 | 11:32 AM
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This would be fine IF we would be able to keep the compensation that XJT group has right now. Now I don't claim to know even 1% of what you or Tony know but we all know that management will drive to lower the compensation that XJT has in their contract for our new one. So ultimately, this is all moot till we know the final language in our JCBA.
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