How do we do it? The path leading the 4000 pilots of ExpressJet Airlines to the dysfunction that we live in now, rests squarely on the shoulders of our inept negotiating committees.

They (both sides) have failed to behave like adults and negotiate for the good of the pilot groups. Mud slinging, name calling, and mis-information has poisoned the negotitations to the point that I, and many of my peers are concerned for the future of this company.

I'm not blaming any one person or any one side. Both need to be held accountable to their pilot groups, and we need good people who actually have our best interests at heart. Unfortunately due to egos and greed, I have serious doubts that this can be accomplished with those currently at the helm of our NC's.

What can be done?

 

How many more threads do we need, but 100% agree with you. I honestly don't care which parts of each side of the contract I get I just want to have it done.

 

Record all negotiating sessions. All videos kept secure. Unedited. At anytime, any pilot from either side can come into the office and watch them.

Quit hiding behind confidentiality agreements, no more he said she said, no more secret negotiations in other cities


If PBS systems are the real hold up...lets run them side by side and vote. I personally think that is silly. I think we have a working, well known, proven system that the pilot group is overall happy with. I think we will waste a lot of money on programming, education, training, etc for a system that has a lot of unknowns for very little potential improvements. The only real arguments I have heard for the new system is the live bidding. Which is truly worthless until everyone above you has placed their bid. I think the only real way to have an idea of what you can hold comes with experience and a track record of what people above you are bidding.

It does seem it turned into a ****ing contest. But if it is truly that big of an issue...I am not so married to our system that I would refuse to look at something else. And if after a fair comparison, fair testing, and a pilot vote...if the majority wants the other system...lets buy it and roll on

 

Im with you. I dont give a crap any more, lets move on. I'd be fine with what you guys have, just more refined, and better reserve rules or something.

 

Recall the MECs and then start a decertification drive. Worked for US Airways!

 

How about you and the MECs do some growing up. That would be much easier.

 

First, I'm not on an MEC. Second, ironic you call me immature while you change my name and tell me off. Third, I'm not the problem in this "merger". Looks like you're the one who needs to grow up.

 

How about we put forth a vote to all asa pilots asking if they would prefer a line bidding system or what they have now? Actually, how about asking all xjt pilots...

 

Line bidding isnt even an option

 

There's no need. The ASA MEC has several years of polling shoring overwhelming support (90%) for our current PBS system. The Expressjet MEC has polling showing overwhelming support against any PBS system.

Correct. Stated by management.