All of management thinks that labor is to costly, lol'd!

What's your point?

 

Eagle pilots will cave in once again. You haven't been here too long haven't you?

 

I have been here over two year, enough time to see that pilots at Eagle and other airlines will step all over each other if it gives them a glimpse of something that could be good for them. Pilots will fear the unknown and cave in to management with the help of the unions. It not only Eagle, it's avery regional...

 

Didn't you all know, nobody knows as much as RJ Pilot. He see's the future and knows all and anybody who disagree's is "snotty" or whatever else he likes to say to criticize.

 

Dont worry, they already have a fleet plan. Its NDA though.

 

There are 85 EMB FOs for May. It fluctuates though there were 120 in March with a lot of the LA TDY guys.

LGA gets 25 EMB and 30 CRJ departures a day. JFK gets 21 EMB and 6 CRJ departures a day.

LGA is the only airport with day trip lines. They have a couple which are usually XNA turns and some 4 leg day trips. Most of the JFK flying goes through other airports and doesn't return to JFK every other leg. A lot of the JFK flying is done by MIA and ORD.

JFK EMB is the current junior captain but there will be a vacancy out on the 6th. It will probably still be the junior base but no one knows if it will be EMB or CRJ.

 

Of course they have a fleet plan of some nature and I'm sure it's a flexible plan that now has to be modified due to the nature of the business. And it should have a NDA associated with it for business protection although that is very frustrating as an employee. But we are just that...employees...not management, nor as an employee are we entitled to negotiate. That's where the union should (and I say, should) help protect us.

And why would I worry about something that's completely out of my control? And why should I endlessly argue about topics that are completely speculative as you do to no end.

You take pure speculation on your point and spin in to suit you doom and gloom as if the sky was falling. Everyone should just know you as chicken little. So go spread your endless bs that does not help the situation in the slightest and fill your own head with this propaganda everyone has been reading from you for some time now. If it was truly as bad as you make it, do everyone a favor and leave for greener pastures.

 

ok, I'll bite... A few years ago I had a retired cargo pilot correct a similar statement that I made (the one in red). Management is part of the employee group, they are management and we are labor but when it boils down we are all employees for the company and in this instance we work for the stock holders (lack there of) so we work for the creditors. Management doesn't own the company, they are there to direct the company and work with labor to attain the best results but we know that it has become a huge fight over power and money.

The second thing is the NDA comment, the Eagle fleet plan doesn't have to be a secret. It's all about leverage and they use it to scare the eagle pilots and whipsaw against the other regional looking to earn more business. This whole NDA crap is a way to control the unions.

As far as the Unions, well your representatives are pilots form your own company representing the pilots. Labor unions are legally recognized as representatives of workers in many industries in the United States, in other words is a group of employees that have agreed to join together and bargain together. ALPA has national but normally national doesn't spend as much in your day to day ops as do your local reps who are pilots from your own airline. Don't forget the Union woks for you the employee and they are there to do what you want for the group as a whole. At Eagle we have an issue with the current Union leadership have found a way to isolate themselves from the labor group and are doing as they see fit and many of us are working to stop this but is not an easy process... The company is helping them, not long ago the company paid their wages to represent the pilots, you can read into that as you wish.

 

While I won't go in depth and nit pick, your statement is true about shareholders and management being employees. I was incorrect in my statement but what I was trying to say is that management has a job...manage and make macro decisions more or less. Other employees (i.e. pilots, which is what I am) are just that...pilots. Not business leaders of their respective companies. We are not paid to dissect 10-k reports, merger plans, depreciation of aircraft, or other issues that management typically does (at least upper management).

You are also correct about NDAs overall. Not entirely. They are a critical business tool that needs to be used but not abused. I believe we can agree on this. At Eagle it would appear at times that it is abused but none the less they are business critical documents that must be singed by multiple parties, including our union.

My overall point is that some individuals (RJ Pilot for instance) acts like a know it all doom and gloom chicken little. And will pounce at anything while attempting to throw mud at the wall to see what sticks.

NDAs are important within reason. Fleet plans and business plans are important. As our job as pilots, we are not entitled to ALL the information at anytime we want...this applies to most work groups in most industry. I am speaking generally but I think you get the point, What.

 

Is that you tony? btw, you know what you can do with your NDA thoughts....