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Eagle life
RJ you're a joke. You just don't have a clue do you. I'm not going to get into a petty argument with you but you have no idea about anything especially who I am.
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Originally Posted by SkylineAviation
(Post 1399062)
RJ you're a joke. You just don't have a clue do you. I'm not going to get into a petty argument with you but you have no idea about anything especially who I am.
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Originally Posted by SkylineAviation
(Post 1399062)
RJ you're a joke. You just don't have a clue do you. I'm not going to get into a petty argument with you but you have no idea about anything especially who I am.
Then again, according to him, someone named "Joey" was the king of L-Eagle doom & gloom and now look where we are.......:cool: |
Originally Posted by eaglefly
(Post 1399098)
According to him, identities are his specialty. ;)
Then again, according to him, someone named "Joey" was the king of L-Eagle doom & gloom and now look where we are.......:cool: |
Originally Posted by What
(Post 1399101)
You will just not let it go will ya?
You seem to have no sense of humor. I realize its a very stressful time at Eagle, but perhaps it's time to bid for a vacation ? |
Originally Posted by What
(Post 1398586)
I have been here over two year, enough time to see that pilots at Eagle and other airlines will step all over each other if it gives them a glimpse of something that could be good for them. Pilots will fear the unknown and cave in to management with the help of the unions. It not only Eagle, it's avery regional...
Your biggest threat is your current union leadership. Soon, you'll likely see them making alterations to your agreement with the company and that will include a more "company friendly" PBS than anticipated. Additionally, partly due to that and your pay indexing, the days of the $120,000/year RJ captain are over. PBS will ensure that if you choose to knock yourself silly flying the maximum 1000 hours/year, you'll get 1000 hours of pay at the new indexed rates. A senior captain doing that at perhaps 12 days off/month or less will be about $85,000/year plus per diem. The above isn't doom & gloom, just economic reality for the regional industry and with staggered contracts, they'll forever keep the sword of Damocles over regional pilots head to be the cheapest bidder. No one however is likely to be unemployed anytime soon though. |
and mainline will then be forced to pass mainline domestic flying to the new cheaper regional feed because that is what all mainlines have and will do and done. viscious circle, to bad alpa causes all of the damage. the new aa will have to give up on scope again if they want to keep the payrates they have now in the mou.
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Nah. I don't see that happening. The Legacy mainline guys all seem to have drawn the line in the sand. IMO, continued scope relaxation is dead.
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Yes and no. Only so many routes/frequencies will be suitable for <76-seaters and regionals will be hamstrung in the future of not having enough F/O's in the pipeline. The ability to get pilots and higher yield economics of > 76-seats will bolster mainline over regional in the future. That being said 64 and 76-seat RJ's will still have a significant role and the AA network will have hundreds of them, again spread out among 3-4 carriers.
Just my .02. |
Originally Posted by SkylineAviation
(Post 1399062)
RJ you're a joke. You just don't have a clue do you. I'm not going to get into a petty argument with you but you have no idea about anything especially who I am.
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Originally Posted by feltf4
(Post 1399079)
No. RJ is fantastic. Why you ask? Because I know, no matter what I do in life, there will always be someone else who is more miserable, unhappy and less liked than me!
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Originally Posted by eaglefly
(Post 1399098)
According to him, identities are his specialty. ;)
Then again, according to him, someone named "Joey" was the king of L-Eagle doom & gloom and now look where we are.......:cool: |
Originally Posted by eaglefly
(Post 1399105)
Let what go ?
You seem to have no sense of humor. I realize its a very stressful time at Eagle, but perhaps it's time to bid for a vacation ? |
Eagle life
Haha...I laugh at jokes like you RJ. Why would I hit the ATP prep?
Let me also ask, how many NDAs have you signed as a matter of business in the real business world? How many deals have you discussed and signed with other business owners and leaders? How much real life experience do you have that makes you know so much? Everyone on this site knows the answer....0. But you know me? I've had my ATP. This is not my first airline or corporate job for me unlike you. I've singed NDAs, met with business leaders and owners and will do so this week while I'm flying as well. I can school you all day if you would like. I would love to see you out from behind your computer screen making ignorant remarks. I'm in the real world flying and in business when I'm not flying. Who are you? |
Originally Posted by RJ Pilot
(Post 1399299)
Hey Whats up Joey? Long time no see! Im still in the process of opening my own photography business. Any pointers?
My iPhone has a great camera. Aim and shoot ! |
Originally Posted by RJ Pilot
(Post 1399300)
Stressful? Not really. I don't have nothing to worry.
:-) |
Originally Posted by SkylineAviation
(Post 1399305)
Haha...I laugh at jokes like you RJ. Why would I hit the ATP prep?
Let me also ask, how many NDAs have you signed as a matter of business in the real business world? How many deals have you discussed and signed with other business owners and leaders? How much real life experience do you have that makes you know so much? Everyone on this site knows the answer....0. But you know me? I've had my ATP. This is not my first airline or corporate job for me unlike you. I've singed NDAs, met with business leaders and owners and will do so this week while I'm flying as well. I can school you all day if you would like. I would love to see you out from behind your computer screen making ignorant remarks. I'm in the real world flying and in business when I'm not flying. Who are you? |
Last time I checked the title on this thread was "Eagle Life"......so lets get back to it......
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Originally Posted by WARich
(Post 1399470)
Last time I checked the title on this thread was "Eagle Life"......so lets get back to it......
AQP tentative Agreement. =good. AE wont be metering pilots to AA.=good. Downsizing more than planned for now.=bad. There you have it. |
Originally Posted by RJ Pilot
(Post 1399477)
Latest updates:
AQP tentative Agreement. =good. AE wont be metering pilots to AA.=good. Downsizing more than planned for now.=bad. There you have it. |
Parking 140's temporarily
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Originally Posted by Spoiler
(Post 1399493)
Parking 140's temporarily
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Originally Posted by Spoiler
(Post 1399493)
Parking 140's temporarily
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I'm good friends with the top guy at the valet parking kiosk at IGM
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Originally Posted by RJ Pilot
(Post 1399477)
Latest updates:
AQP tentative Agreement. =good. AE wont be metering pilots to AA.=good. Downsizing more than planned for now.=bad. There you have it. The "metering" aspect isn't really a major issue for 2013 for Eagle. First street/824 hires are expected in the 2nd August class at the earliest. That would make 8 classes for the rest of the year (usually not a holiday class at end of December). At 25/class or 50/month that would be 25 824's per month or only 5 more than minimum. AA says 200 "new hires" projected this year once the recall list to include numbered flows is thru, so that jibes. Your MEC needs to push a lot of smokescreen B.S. right now on the flying mushrooms there, so look for a lot of fluffed up cotton candy to distract your efforts at booting them before they can give management their gold bar of PBS. The AQP is another oversell with unknown language for the same reason. These clowns have played you guys like this successfully before and it's one more time for the sweet souvenir (Bill the Butcher) again. Keep your eye on the ball. |
Originally Posted by eaglefly
(Post 1399507)
Consider the source (a known tree of rotten apples).
The "metering" aspect isn't really a major issue for 2013 for Eagle. First street/824 hires are expected in the 2nd August class at the earliest. That would make 8 classes for the rest of the year (usually not a holiday class at end of December). At 25/class or 50/month that would be 25 824's per month or only 5 more than minimum. AA says 200 "new hires" projected this year once the recall list to include numbered flows is thru, so that jibes. Your MEC needs to push a lot of smokescreen B.S. right now on the flying mushrooms there, so look for a lot of fluffed up cotton candy to distract your efforts at booting them before they can give management their gold bar of PBS. The AQP is another oversell with unknown language for the same reason. These clowns have played you guys like this successfully before and it's one more time for the sweet souvenir (Bill the Butcher) again. Keep your eye on the ball. |
Originally Posted by eaglefly
(Post 1399507)
Consider the source (a known tree of rotten apples).
The "metering" aspect isn't really a major issue for 2013 for Eagle. First street/824 hires are expected in the 2nd August class at the earliest. That would make 8 classes for the rest of the year (usually not a holiday class at end of December). At 25/class or 50/month that would be 25 824's per month or only 5 more than minimum. AA says 200 "new hires" projected this year once the recall list to include numbered flows is thru, so that jibes. Your MEC needs to push a lot of smokescreen B.S. right now on the flying mushrooms there, so look for a lot of fluffed up cotton candy to distract your efforts at booting them before they can give management their gold bar of PBS. The AQP is another oversell with unknown language for the same reason. These clowns have played you guys like this successfully before and it's one more time for the sweet souvenir (Bill the Butcher) again. Keep your eye on the ball. I agree, their leaders are not to be trusted, and should have been removed long ago. This highlights how corrupt ALPA is from the top down for allowing these guys to remain in office. That crap doesn't fly over here, and there'd be mass lynchings if that type of stealing member money happened here. The APA ain't perfect, but we don't tolerate thieves. |
Originally Posted by RJ Pilot
(Post 1399513)
Whats your source joey? I mean, you seem to be in the know for someone who doesn't even work at Eagle.
Now........you're free to return to your one-man cyber clown act. :cool: |
Originally Posted by Mason32
(Post 1399517)
My source at Eagle says they sent out the AQP LOA yesterday for all to see and read.
I agree, their leaders are not to be trusted, and should have been removed long ago. This highlights how corrupt ALPA is from the top down for allowing these guys to remain in office. That crap doesn't fly over here, and there'd be mass lynchings if that type of stealing member money happened here. The APA ain't perfect, but we don't tolerate thieves. DR especially is in damage control mode to save his cushy lifestyle. Eagle management needs these guys too as no one (not even the old Texas Mafia) showered them with gifts like these idiots. IMO, these latest "announcements" are a team effort with a specific purpose. They're also blatently violating the reserve turn back rules in the new contract under the subterfuge of a disagreement of interpretation (company inserting preferred intent where it doesn't contractually exist) and the MEC has instructed the kids to fly and grieve (the legal requirement) so things will stay stable and the companies desires will be met. But, we all know how that works out and especially at Eagle, those affected can expect squat in return at the grievance hearing in 18 months........that's if the MEC doesn't agree to trade that for something else before then (something they most likely already contractually have anyway). It's the same old song from the same old band playing again there and it appears that many will once again get up to shake their booty's and gig in denial it's the same song as before. This party goes on in perpituity as long as these pilots refuse to accept this from their leadership and so far, no one has really put their foot down yet. By the time that happens it will have been way too late anyway. Saw this coming years ago and that's why the flow to AA was a no-brainer. It's almost getting too painful to watch and hear and the info I get almost daily makes me wince more with every revelation. The situation there for the pilots reminds me of a mix of the hysterical insanity of Afghanistan and the cloistered domination of North Korea (complete with meglomaniacal dictator). But, the dance goes on and once an "open" PBS scheduling plan is in place, it's Mesa time in both pay and scheduling quality. I don't care how shiny that CRJ-900 or even E-175 is, that world just ain't worth it.......to me anyway. |
So, let's get this straight, with AE parking aircraft they still are looking to hire 600 pilots a year? Can someone explain this? (without getting in a fight guys please)
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Originally Posted by WARich
(Post 1399580)
So, let's get this straight, with AE parking aircraft they still are looking to hire 600 pilots a year? Can someone explain this? (without getting in a fight guys please)
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Originally Posted by N927EV
(Post 1399593)
The parking of the 140s is a rumor. I just heard it for the first time on this forum. I think he's just trying to antagonize people.
All we know is that the 135's will be parked by years end leaving eagle 230 ish airplanes, we are hiring 25-30 a month and upgrading while flowing pilots to AA. Don't have a fleet plan, don't know what the future of the company looks like but the same could be said for all regionals. |
Are we really upgrading?
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Originally Posted by RJ Pilot
(Post 1399768)
Are we really upgrading?
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Originally Posted by WARich
(Post 1399580)
So, let's get this straight, with AE parking aircraft they still are looking to hire 600 pilots a year? Can someone explain this? (without getting in a fight guys please)
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Thanks......once again, is Eagle still looking like one of the better regionals to go to at this point?
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Originally Posted by WARich
(Post 1400274)
Thanks......once again, is Eagle still looking like one of the better regionals to go to at this point?
No fleet plan. cant keep up with hiring. Shrinking. Dont be fooled by the "massive movement" happening with guys bailing to AA and other majors. As pilots bail, they will accelerate the parking of planes. |
I'm curious what the junior bases are around there and how they decide who goes to what airframe.
Thanks.... |
Originally Posted by RJ Pilot
(Post 1400308)
Parking planes.
No fleet plan. cant keep up with hiring. Shrinking. Dont be fooled by the "massive movement" happening with guys bailing to AA and other majors. As pilots bail, they will accelerate the parking of planes. I agree with Eaglefly on the fact that Delta is the only one who is REALLY seeing the crystal ball in all this, and the purchase of PNCL in my opinion at least is a part of it. |
Originally Posted by TallFlyer
(Post 1400318)
I'm curious what the junior bases are around there and how they decide who goes to what airframe.
Thanks.... |
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