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Old 04-25-2013 | 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyJSH
No, but his wife enjoys his forum time.
That is funny right there, I don't care who you are that's funny!
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Old 04-25-2013 | 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Saabs
Wait that wasn't pinnacle that made me do holds (intercept two vor radials ) in a beech 1900 sim for my interview? Gawsh I'm just a dump turbo prop pilot how will I ever pass crj training?!?!?
uhhhh aahhhhh .......golf clap, golf clap...
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Old 04-25-2013 | 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Bartok
You do remember that over 1500 pilots at the current 9E were never hired by Pinnacle, right?
All too well! Though I heard good things about XJ in terms of their operation and training, and I assume it showed through in their hiring standards. I'll say it as a ex-9E guy, I think XJ was on a higher echelon than 9E. Colgan on the other hand was a complete train wreck, owned by some of the worst management ever. Just watch "Flying Cheap" and you'll get the idea.
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Old 04-25-2013 | 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Saabs
Wait that wasn't pinnacle that made me do holds (intercept two vor radials ) in a beech 1900 sim for my interview? Gawsh I'm just a dump turbo prop pilot how will I ever pass crj training?!?!?
I dunno, good luck! I've heard some horror stories of XJ and 9L guys not passing 9E training over small stuff. Hopefully those days are over now that XJ will start running things.

Originally Posted by FlyJSH
No, but his wife enjoys his forum time.
"I got nothing to say in an argumentative/constructive manner, so I'll just attack his personal family."

Well played

Shyguy would hate if Pinnacle was added to Delta seniority list. This would make his move to VA seem a litte less special.
I really don't envision that happening and to be honest, I don't think DALPA would go for it. They were very quick to make sure the XJ and CP flows ended. And if the in the rarest of rarest cases 9E does get its list merged into Delta, then so be it, more power to ya. Who knows when and even if that will happen. In the mean time, I cannot afford to live in self-voted poverty so I won't regret my move. Nothing stops anyone from applying in the future off the street to United, Delta, or American.
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Old 04-25-2013 | 11:39 PM
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy

"I got nothing to say in an argumentative/constructive manner, so I'll just attack his personal family."

Well played
Put it in context: it was a joke. I meant it to be funny. Some folks got it. Apparently, you did not. I'm sorry if I offended, but your obsession with PinnaColAbba is rather ridiculous.

My buddies and I all kid each other about banging each others Mums. It's a JOKE. It isn't like I am teasing somebody about their mentally ill kid. (For the PC crowd, my last comment was meant to show even I have limits... and I have a brother that is schizophrenic)

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Old 04-25-2013 | 11:45 PM
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Side note RE: PinnaColAbba

I still like that name. It gives homage to all three pilot groups and shows us merging into one. G#d knows we need to be unified if we are to have any hope of surviving.
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Old 04-26-2013 | 12:06 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyJSH
Put it in context: it was a joke. I meant it to be funny. Some folks got it. Apparently, you did not. I'm sorry if I offended, but your obsession with PinnaColAbba is rather ridiculous.

My buddies and I all kid each other about banging each others Mums. It's a JOKE. It isn't like I am teasing somebody about their mentally ill kid. (For the PC crowd, my last comment was meant to show even I have limits... and I have a brother that is schizophrenic)
I know, it was suppose to be a joke-response back. Believe me I'm not offended easy on forums, despite how heated it may seem.
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Old 04-26-2013 | 04:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Boomer
On the other hand, consider that 8 years ago Delta owned 80% of their feed (ASA and Comair) and decided they wanted nothing to do with it.
Consideration needs to be given to who's management team was running Delta at that time. Back then Delta was running "Delta" now Northwest is running "Delta". Then plan for Comair had been laid out prior to Northwest running things at Delta.
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Old 04-26-2013 | 06:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Boomer
On the other hand, consider that 8 years ago Delta owned 80% of their feed (ASA and Comair) and decided they wanted nothing to do with it.
It is possible the economics are changing?

Richard Anderson definitely does not call McKinsey and Co. to get ideas on how to run an airline. He is a vertical integration, process driven, results guy and to my amazement, he and his team have executed.

I am not sure I understand the benefit of a captive "farm team" regional airline. You and I have never seen "free agency" benefit the player in the aviation industry. Could management be that fearful of a pilot shortage? I doubt it.

Black helicopter stuff .... (don't read if you don't like spy novels)

The Delta MEC, traditionally, has fought unity at the regional level.

Notice that in the Pinnacle deal ALPA specifically and intentionally excluded the Delta MEC and thanks to the incredible power President Moak enjoys, Moak and Wychor did it without a peep of complaint.

Moak tends to do things in such a way that they are done before the membership even gets a whiff of what happened. Could Moak be engineering restoration of job protection provisions? Who knows?

Doing so would go against the action he took with Compass as MEC Chairman, but economics do change and so does airline management.

Perhaps there is a good reason the Delta pilots are locked out of whatever is getting cooked up back there.
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Old 04-26-2013 | 06:19 AM
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[QUOTE=Pogey Bait;1398503]Consideration needs to be given to who's management team was running Delta at that time. Back then Delta was running "Delta" now Northwest is running "Delta". Then plan for Comair had been laid out prior to Northwest running things at Delta.[/QUOTE

huh? what managers would that be? our top brass has not changed, who are you referring to?
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