No, scab is only when there is a strike and someone crosses the picket line and goes to work and flies a plane behind the backs of other coworkers. Obviously, the 9E situation is not scabbing, there is no strike, no picket line.

You're taking my post out of context. My point was this. You ask someone why they'd vote yes to a paycut. They'd say well I have a mortgage and family/kids to feed. All I said is that a scab gives the same reason. It's the reason, not the actual scab. Nor the guy who votes for a cut. There's no comparison between the two, we are only talking about the reasoning behind it. The reasoning to "do it" is the same. It doesn't make you a scab obviously, all I said is that the reason given is the same. What's wrong with that statement? It seems factual. There is no scabbing at 9E obviously, and that the reason given to vote yes is the same kind of reason given by a scab, which is to feed family and pay mortgage.



And legend, I know my history of scabs. The last scab was during the Spirit strike of 2010. A Falcon MD88 crew took a flight to FLL for Spirit Airlines.

Doesn't matter. My jacket has more buttons than yours, thus I am obviously superior.

Everyone knows freight pilots are only there because they couldn't get hired at a real airline, anyways.

hahahaaaaa. Are there enough butthurt forms to go around?

First of all he was being facetious, second of all it had nothing to do with income, third of all with the brain as big as yours I'm sure you didn't need me to tell you that. Right?

Our seniority and longevity system is why pilot groups keep voting in pay cuts over and over again. No one wants to start over. The longevity system needs to go. We need to have one pay scale. A 12 year CRJ first officer should make the same as a year 1 CRJ first officer. It is the same job. There are pilots at my airline that want to take equipment out of it and go to a purely longevity scale. This is the wrong way. We need to make it so it is not such a big deal if an airline goes out of business. We need true unity. The Pinnacle pilots voted as a whole how every single pilot group out there would have. United, Delta, US Airways, American, Frontier, etc. all voluntarily voted for pay cuts to help their airline. On the regional side, Mesa, Comair, Expressjet, etc. same thing. It is not the individual pilots fault. We are very predictable and easily played. Delta needed more large regional jets so they convinced the Delta pilots to give up more large rj scope. They put in a bunch of ratios and threw some 717's so it would not sting so much. DALPA actually believes it was a win. We need to change our culture. We need to be able to start over without losing our houses. Our leverage would sky-rocket.

I dislike hockey but I like your post

Dude!

About the last thing in the world I want to think about is your scab!

ShyGuy,

I was taken back by your comments especially considering what our Pilot group has gone through, but my last post was un called for and I apologize for that. I wish you success.

No worries :)

I give shy a hard time, but I do know where he is coming from.. He is very easily explained---, let's say you married a chick, and after 4 years of marriage, you find out she has been screwing around on you (blotch award). You try to reconcile and try to make your marriage work, but during this turbulent time in your marriage, you meet a smoking hot flight attendant, (virgin, no pun intended ;)), so you divorce the hooker wife (quit pinnacle) and marry the hot FA (go to virgin), and you're happy with your life, but still ****ed off that that hooker of a first wife (pinnacle) effed you over. Years later you find out first wife (pinnacle) found another man, (Delta) and looks like she may just do ok without you after all (not get shut down). Deeeeeeeeep down inside your a little happy (shys 1 good comment about 9E out of 6383937363537 negative comments about 9E) but on the surface you want that beotch to burn in hell (9E to shut the eff down). No man can blame him. 80 knots on the other, seems to be just irreconcilable differences. Too many late night drunk fights with the NMFC.

The vast majority of what remains of the "NMFC" doesn't drink, At all (trust me here as I know them on a first name basis). Beyond that, all would be true. Shy has a serious discontent for 9E and still posts about it, although he himself has claimed to have "moved on". Nobody gives him a hard time about the move, but we all see that Bloch is a persistent thorn in his emotional side.

Shy, please inform all of us if that's not the case.

Don't personally know too many of the NMFC, nor do i have any clue who 80 knots is either, didn't mean it as an attack against them on a personal level. My statement was a correlation between what more than a few "irreconcilable differences" divorces are cited for, and 80 knots well known discontent for the NMFC.. No butt hurt intended here.....:D

Hey, some of them are great. Perhaps those are the ones that drink. :)

swamp, that was very well done! :)

The weird thing is with the move from MEM to MSP, NMFC can still hold the same acronym: Northern Minneapolis Flying Club ;)

swamp, that brought a tear to my eye. Bravo.

edit: Yes it's 3:30 am. I haven't worked in almost 12 months. I need some direction in my life.

I just want to say that Pinnacle is the best airline in the world. They have paid me each and every month since September 2012 to sit at home. Thank Pinnacle for being the best airline in the world.

Enjoy it! The Law of Averages will kick in eventually, but I hope not until summer is over!

Why? Are you a Colgan pilot?

Priceless!!!!!!

Dont mess with the colganites.

Every single one of them that has been collecting their pay check for months while sitting at home doing nothing has actually contacted the union to volunteer some of their time to chime in and help out other pilots in a much less favorable position...

Well, maybe not really to help their fellow pilots, but maybe to give back to that union that actually made possible for them not only to keep their job while their airline disappeared, but on top of that, allow them to stay home and collect money for nothing until its actually time to go earn it.

I was bored. Would have rather flown the whole time.

Maybe memes aren't your thing.

They are now!

I love hats.
 

New game boys. Next time I see a Delta guy holding his hat...I'm gonna take it away from him. We will call it "HERMANS HAT". When I get home, I will give the hat to my son. When we get a call from the Boss...my 6 year old will say, "Capt D, if he doesn't want the hat...I know 10,000 pilots that do!"

Updates from the Delta call this morning...

Richard Anderson was asked when does the Pinnacle acquisition close and are you just replacing Comair with Pinnacle?

-May 1st
-It will not replace Comair, it will be the most efficient best run regional carrier in the industry

Why?

-We have fixed the scale and cost issues
-70 and 76 seaters in
-Control the product and make it like mainline

This is awesome. How do I print one of these out?

Good for you guys. Sounds like Pinnacle will be a solid product. So, the 700 will be coming on property from what Anderson says?

That's interesting, Lone.

Please don't spread good rumors and tell Mr. Anderson to stop saying good things about Pinnacle. I have moved up 60 spots on the seniority list in 3 months. So everything needs to be doom and Gloom until something good actually happens.

Hey ShyGuy, you can add Richard Anderson to your so called Pinnacle delusional list. :rolleyes:

Are you taking him seriously? The analyst lady who asked the question about Pinnacle bust out laughing right when he said it will be the most efficient, best run regional carrier. She laughs. He goes it's really important to notice this. She still laughs and says "I'm sorry."


He concludes with "so much operational leverage on this move, we're excited on close on this (Pinnacle). Read between the lines. Now that 9E bent over and votes yes, they are coming after the other DCI carriers. So it's nothing to be proud of, you have set the next downward pressure spiral on other airlines, especially those in negotiations. But hey, it saved your job right?

Did he say "Pinnacle IS the most efficient, best run Regional carrier"?

or "WILL BE the most........... "

Big difference.

$112-161 an hr

$181-197 an hr

What are those?

Now I have no idea what DL holds for Pinnacle in the future, hopefully it is positive but I would be careful getting too giddy on what is said in investors conference call.

Know your audience. These are investors they are talking to. RA, SD, and all the other officers on it are there to sell to the investors on their decisions for Delta and how it makes a positive impact on Delta's bottom line.

Of course they aren't going to come out and say we sunk 100 Million into a company just to write it off in a few years, because we didn't notice that we had a supplier who couldn't run their business and we didn't want to have a massive service disruption.

Pinnacle is still going to park a ton of fifty seaters over the next few years and not replacing them one for one. That is good from an investors point of view, not a pilot point of view.

I don't know, but I can assure you no RJ pilot is making those wages. What is a 4th year FO cap? 37/hr? Is that how little you think you are worth to vote yes to this POS? Or are you a Capt willing to take any paycut to hang on to the left seat until Delta calls.

You must have some pretty low self esteem then bro, flying around that big fancy Bus of yours with 3 times the people in the back, for $49, whose rates put a downward spiral on the legacies.....

No, I just find it ironic that a bottom feeder is calling out another bottom feeder.