If there is one thing certain in an uncertain industry is the regional foot print of airframes is going to decrease. And now for your PSA:

 

This is what I wanted to know. Hopefully, like DAL, UAL will have some fleet changes which would require more hiring at mainline. But for some reason DAL still hasn't done any hiring. Are the 717's also replacing the DC-9's over there?

 

Take in mind these are United owned, only 30 that they can allocate to cheap regional that flies a/c as second party lessor, ie compass /xjet or skywest etc

rah on the other hand operate as first party lessor to which they sell their aircraft for hire to a major. All mainline mix both type of business amongst all the regional feed. Rah did order 94 E175's. 47 as AE. I garuntee they will ink a deal with ual to expand their current Ejet flying with them to give those additional ejets they ordered a home. And now you have full on regional whipsaw ala delta connex. What one airline operates successfully, the rest do to stay in line with competitive costs. Thus the way of the airlines.

 

Anyone else see the news that XJT did NOT get this flying? I figured it was a long shot for us. Guess that means we'll be seeing more Shupublicans in ORD. I hate to be a doom-and-gloomer but this doesn't give me a "warm fuzzy" about the future.

Anyone see anything about who will be flying these airplanes?

 

From the RAH Q1 conference call:

Thanks for taking the follow-up. Just a quick your take on United doing a transaction with the 30 plus 40 options where they appear to lead here? We haven’t seen United do something like that in some time, I guess it was really the Continental guys, I think back in the days of Express Jet. Do you – any thoughts on maybe why they’re out there buying these airplanes and arguably using scarce resources on regional jets?

Bryan Bedford:

Yes, I have an opinion although, they’ll probably give you a more informed opinion on your views, but I think the reality is that the production levels on these larger capacity regional jets over the last three years have been ramping down both Bombardier and Embraer and there is more competition for those resources, then perhaps there is going to be supply.

I think United decided it was important for them at this point to place a strategic order to essentially reserve the deliver positions that remain available in 2014 and 2015. Essentially get ahead of others that are still in the negotiating process and I’m not sure we’re going to – I’m not sure that’s going to prove to be unusual. Now ultimately whether United physically takes those aircraft and finances them remains to be seen or whether they’re allocated as part of negotiated solution with a third party provider.

I don’t know that we know that outcome yet, but yes I think it was savy move on United's part to at least lockdown E-Jet deliveries.

 

Your post is a-little misleading. 153 76 seaters is now allowed by the JCBA but no more than 255 76/70 aircraft. So unless management decides to park 70 seaters for 76 seaters, no more than around 65 76 seaters can added until a SNB fleet in implemented at mainline. That's why they eloquently call it "scope choke"

 

Hence why I said similar. Delta has a limit of 255 large RJs, 120ish 65 seaters and rest of the 50 seaters for a max of 450. United has a similar SCOPE but unlike Delta United didn't have 76 seaters to begin with so they will be allowed to bring some online but to bring more they would have to do what the post above says.

 

Not the fact that XJT didn't get the flying, but we didn't even BID on that flying. BH made a comment about 'bidding on flying lower than the cost' - how does he know what would have been accepted if he didn't put in an offer?

 

That would be the third time you've stupidly threatened to chase an upgrade.

 

This thread is 8 pages of mental masturbation. No one, except maybe a few on an upper floor at 77 West Wacker Drive knows where these planes are going. why not just wait and see before embarrassing ourselves with baseless predictions? For all we know, UAL could be buying a certificate and starting their own version of Compass Airlines. That would make the most sense.

The only thing we know for sure is that they're not going to ExpressJet, and Nevets has been talking out his anus, as usual.