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Regional unions always use the bottom-end pay on their propaganda, but when they sign new contracts that bottom-end pay barely budges. Pre contract "Is this worth it - $18,282" post contract "Yay, $23,000! Wait... um?" Impressive! Yeah, a 27% raise is just a joke. |
Originally Posted by What
(Post 1411831)
I hope your airline doesn't ask you for concessions, and you guys start to get upset.
Good luck with that. You are correct; just doing your job correctly is the best tool we have. |
I spoke to a United pilot after their "Summer of Love." In retrospect, he wished they had flown at the speed of heat instead of slowing down.
Slowing down hurts the passengers more than the Company and drove some passengers to Management's side. Flying fast burns the gas (I know the Airline that pays the CPA pays for the fuel) and keeps the passengers happy, so that when the drive is over, you still have a customer base. Both scenarios are fairly irrelevant as Management is calling both the "fast and the slow flyer's" in for a carpet dance... |
People are clueless. We fly using ACARS generated Econ speeds; per the company; and these speeds are slow as molasses. Quit speculating on your own about what we should do. We're flying by the book. (Unless I have a flight to catch).
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Originally Posted by TillerEnvy:1412276
People are clueless. We fly using ACARS generated Econ speeds; per the company; and these speeds are slow as molasses. Quit speculating on your own about what we should do. We're flying by the book. (Unless I have a flight to catch).
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Originally Posted by TillerEnvy
(Post 1412276)
People are clueless. We fly using ACARS generated Econ speeds; per the company; and these speeds are slow as molasses. Quit speculating on your own about what we should do. We're flying by the book. (Unless I have a flight to catch).
I cannot tell you how many times I have been stuck behind a Chautauqua, Brickyard, or Mercury heading into LGA or DCA who claimed .62-.68 when asked for their speed. My minimum is .72-.74 depending on weight and model. You should hear the stink they put up when ATC asked them to do at least .75. This is pilot generated. |
Call BS all you like, 170 Econ speeds are WELL below .72-.74. Hell, even CHQ dispatch files us for .70 as the norm. If they file it, we fly it...
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Originally Posted by Captain Tony
(Post 1412379)
At .65? Seriously? I call BS
I cannot tell you how many times I have been stuck behind a Chautauqua, Brickyard, or Mercury heading into LGA or DCA who claimed .62-.68 when asked for their speed. My minimum is .72-.74 depending on weight and model. You should hear the stink they put up when ATC asked them to do at least .75. This is pilot generated. |
At psa our econo speeds typically come to .65 or below. I wont even fly the sometimes .60 that is generated at altitute because its just too damn slow. So I dont think these rah guys are making anything up. Ofcourse if atc asks for .75 or better I always oblige.
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Originally Posted by Captain Tony:1412379
Originally Posted by TillerEnvy
(Post 1412276)
People are clueless. We fly using ACARS generated Econ speeds; per the company; and these speeds are slow as molasses. Quit speculating on your own about what we should do. We're flying by the book. (Unless I have a flight to catch).
I cannot tell you how many times I have been stuck behind a Chautauqua, Brickyard, or Mercury heading into LGA or DCA who claimed .62-.68 when asked for their speed. My minimum is .72-.74 depending on weight and model. You should hear the stink they put up when ATC asked them to do at least .75. This is pilot generated. |
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