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Originally Posted by Around123
(Post 1485701)
Are you on reserve? He will be.
If you are starting out in the industry plan on 5 to 8 year if it less great but it maybe longer. Wait for Sky West, Express Jet, Air Whisky, Maybe Eagle good contract but politics right now. Go to a Job Fair and see how professional the recruiters are. |
That all being said, GoJet or Republic? Like I said I can't get on with everyone.
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Originally Posted by LBCliving30
(Post 1485816)
That all being said, GoJet or Republic? Like I said I can't get on with everyone.
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You will fly more at Republic and hold a line faster. First year you will make more at Republic.
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Originally Posted by Around123
(Post 1485941)
You will fly more at Republic and hold a line faster. First year you will make more at Republic.
2nd yr pay at SKW exceeds Republic's FO top out |
Originally Posted by Slats
(Post 1485998)
Until flights cancel.
2nd yr pay at SKW exceeds Republic's FO top out |
Originally Posted by Around123
(Post 1486035)
Look at post #40 and 42.
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Originally Posted by LBCliving30
(Post 1486341)
Thanks 123, glad someone saw that, kinda answers I was looking for. Would you happen to know the amount of days straight on reserve @ RAH? G7 told me 6 straight then two off for them.
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Originally Posted by Dejavu
(Post 1486369)
G7 is normally 5on2 off and 5 on 3 off. It varys 6 on 1 off only if u do it to yourself swapping days to get a group off . 10 days is all you get though . Should be 11 lol
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[QUOTE=LBCliving30;1485816]That all being said, GoJet or Republic? QUOTE)
Herpes or syphilis? I hope these aren't the last 2 on your shortlist. |
[QUOTE=Ultralight;1486388]
Originally Posted by LBCliving30
(Post 1485816)
That all being said, GoJet or Republic? QUOTE)
Herpes or syphilis? I hope these aren't the last 2 on your shortlist. |
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Originally Posted by Ultralight
(Post 1486388)
Nice one. Tell us again how awesome your regional is. If I was looking at getting on with one though, GoJet, and Republic would certainly be near the bottom of my list of targets. Republic needs to get their contact sorted out. Its been too long now and the no cancelation pay is an absolute disgrace. Especially on an unreliable aircraft such as the Q400. According to APC, GoJet doesn't offer cancelation pay either. How about SkyWest, ExpressJet, even Mesa? |
[QUOTE=Ultralight;1486388]
Originally Posted by LBCliving30
(Post 1485816)
That all being said, GoJet or Republic? QUOTE)
Herpes or syphilis? I hope these aren't the last 2 on your shortlist. |
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Originally Posted by Ultralight
(Post 1486388)
Your purpose on this site is? C'mon don't be that guy. Are people really offended that someone dares to compare a regional airline to an STD? Don't be so serious. Instead, I suggest you concentrate your efforts into researching your options and comparing who is willing to offer you the best QOL, compensation, growth, commute (or lack thereof) training, contract, bases etc. |
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Originally Posted by LBCliving30
(Post 1486399)
Originally Posted by Ultralight
(Post 1486388)
Your purpose on this site is? C'mon don't be that guy. |
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Originally Posted by Ultralight
(Post 1486401)
Unless its at Republic or GoJet right? |
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Originally Posted by 8hourrule
(Post 1486391)
How about SkyWest, ExpressJet, even Mesa? |
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Originally Posted by Ultralight
(Post 1486397)
Skywest has cancellation pay and we get paid full time for a deadhead. It's a good place to work...for right now at least. Going to do everything to keep it that way. :D That's great . Everyone I know there does love it . Happy for u guys :D |
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Originally Posted by LBCliving30
(Post 1486399)
My purpose on this site is to let people like you know that you would be making a huge mistake by going to a regional that does not even offer cancelation pay. Are people really offended that someone dares to compare a regional airline to an STD? Don't be so serious. Instead, I suggest you concentrate your efforts into researching your options and comparing who is willing to offer you the best QOL, compensation, growth, commute (or lack thereof) training, contract, bases etc. So what is it u do ? Lol |
[QUOTE=Ultralight;1486401]
Originally Posted by LBCliving30
(Post 1486399)
My purpose on this site is to let people like you know that you would be making a huge mistake by going to a regional that does not even offer cancelation pay. Are people really offended that someone dares to compare a regional airline to an STD? Don't be so serious. Instead, I suggest you concentrate your efforts into researching your options and comparing who is willing to offer you the best QOL, compensation, growth, commute (or lack thereof) training, contract, bases etc. |
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Originally Posted by Ultralight
(Post 1486401)
Trust me I've done my homework, I know what I have and what I don't and if you would go back to my original question... I'm not able to get on with everyone and its looking like either RAH or G7. For the third time. I was with a group of pilots we all split up everywhere lol it's they same just about . Find a base that's fits u . It does seem RAH does have a lot of growth coming though . As for g7 it's just no growth for seen . But movement of a company of only 500 . 5 to 10 guys leaving a month puts a dent in our system U just have to weigh the options :D Lol |
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Originally Posted by LBCliving30
(Post 1486426)
I was with a group of pilots we all split up everywhere lol it's they same just about . Find a base that's fits u . It does seem RAH does have a lot of growth coming though . As for g7 it's just no growth for seen . But movement of a company of only 500 . 5 to 10 guys leaving a month puts a dent in our system U just have to weigh the options :D Lol |
I was offered a Nov Class date. What are the chances of being awarded RDU as a base in the first few months? I've been commuting for quite a few years would be great to be home based for a bit. Poor roll a board goes through more wheels then a nascar on a short track.
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Go-Jet new hire info
RDU is totally doable. Welcome aboard.
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Originally Posted by cubanfiredawg
(Post 1488855)
I was offered a Nov Class date. What are the chances of being awarded RDU as a base in the first few months? I've been commuting for quite a few years would be great to be home based for a bit. Poor roll a board goes through more wheels then a nascar on a short track.
Is the oct class already full ? |
Originally Posted by 8hourrule
(Post 1488885)
RDU is totally doable. Welcome aboard.
The more people you "welcome" the less chance you have of getting paid what you deserve. |
Originally Posted by Ultralight
(Post 1489028)
Welcome aboard? What, are you the flight attendant now? Why would you welcome someone to an airline that doesn't even offer cancelation pay?
The more people you "welcome" the less chance you have of getting paid what you deserve. Why not ? U airline Jockeys talk to much crap about this and that . It's a freaking regional get over it . Flying around ****ed at life or other people business , good times :rolleyes: |
Originally Posted by Dejavu
(Post 1489040)
Why not ? U airline Jockeys talk to much crap about this and that .
It's a freaking regional get over it . Flying around ****ed at life or other people business , good times :rolleyes: In the current environment where almost every regional is hiring, why would you condone anyone accepting a position with one that pays their pilots as little as possible and not even cover their pay when the flight gets canceled? Considering you're a "honey badger" you take offense pretty easily don't you think? |
..... And in other news, welcome! Rdu is a great base with great folks.
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Originally Posted by Ultralight
(Post 1489047)
I find it interesting that some RJ pilots fiercely defend their airline like they're family or something. What's wrong with speaking the truth?
In the current environment where almost every regional is hiring, why would you condone anyone accepting a position with one that pays their pilots as little as possible and not even cover their pay when the flight gets canceled? Considering you're a "honey badger" you take offense pretty easily don't you think? Lol yes and honey badger don't care . You and you dam cancelation pay lol u have a hard on for that don't u . U must get a lot of canceled flights to be so worried about it . What a shame . Your also telling a guy not to take a job in home base because of no cancellation pay ? Do u even fly for a regional? Then you question our friendly pilot group when we welcome a new hire lol . Hater gonna hate . |
Originally Posted by Dejavu
(Post 1489224)
U want the truth . U can't handle the truth !
Lol yes and honey badger don't care . You and you dam cancelation pay lol u have a hard on for that don't u . U must get a lot of canceled flights to be so worried about it . What a shame . Pay credit should never be a deciding factor when making a decision whether to write something up or not. It could also lead to friction in the cockpit because one pilot wants to write something up but the other doesn't because it will result in the flight being canceled, resulting in lost pay credit. That's a breakdown in CRM. More realistically, both pilots agree to write up a discrepancy, the flight gets cancelled and now the whole crew is bummed out because they just got bent over through no fault of there own. To be honest, I briefly flirted with the idea of applying for a direct entry captain position at GoJet. When I discovered that no cancelation pay was their policy I quickly put that idea to bed. Bottom line, no cancelation pay is a safety issue, and the unions should be ashamed of themselves for allowing such a policy. Not just GoJet. Republic has the same cheap ass rule. Its an absolute disgrace, especially considering the pittance of a paycheck regional F.O.'s get to begin with. |
Originally Posted by Ultralight
(Post 1489231)
It is worth getting hard over. In my opinion its a safety of flight issue. It forces the scenario where there could be a mechanical issue with the aircraft and either pilot knows that if they write it up, it could well result in the flight being canceled. That means loss of up to 4 hours pay credit on an out and back.
Pay credit should never be a deciding factor when making a decision whether to write something up or not. It could also lead to friction in the cockpit because one pilot wants to write something up but the other doesn't because it will result in the flight being canceled, resulting in lost pay credit. That's a breakdown in CRM. More realistically, both pilots agree to write up a discrepancy, the flight gets cancelled and now the whole crew is bummed out because they just got bent over through no fault of there own. To be honest, I briefly flirted with the idea of applying for a direct entry captain position at GoJet. When I discovered that no cancelation pay was their policy I quickly put that idea to bed. Bottom line, no cancelation pay is a safety issue, and the unions should be ashamed of themselves for allowing such a policy. Not just GoJet. Republic has the same cheap ass rule. Its an absolute disgrace, especially considering the pittance of a paycheck regional F.O.'s get to begin with. I guess I see where ur coming from . I just wouldn't fly a plane if it wasn't safe , just to keep 4hrs of pay , Never felt that pressure to be force or even have to question it . Rj flying in the USA sucks period . Can't wait to get back overseas :D |
Originally Posted by Dejavu
(Post 1489256)
I guess I see where ur coming from .
I just wouldn't fly a plane if it wasn't safe , just to keep 4hrs of pay , Its not cool, and I hope plenty of people know about it before they send off their resume. Maybe, just maybe, if enough people turn them down, they will get the message and treat their employees right. |
Originally Posted by Ultralight
(Post 1489259)
Its 4hrs pay if its a one off event. Make it a weekly occurrence and it soon adds up, especially on an aircraft as temperamental as the Q400.
Its not cool, and I hope plenty of people know about it before they send off their resume. Maybe, just maybe, if enough people turn them down, they will get the message and treat their employees right. True but as a line holder we still get 95% of pay line guarantee. Just sucks if u pick up open time and it gets canceled on ur there goes ur time and a half . Happened to me 2 twice last month but what can u do . |
Originally Posted by Ultralight
(Post 1489028)
Originally Posted by 8hourrule
(Post 1488885)
RDU is totally doable. Welcome aboard.
The more people you "welcome" the less chance you have of getting paid what you deserve. |
Looks like John Cleese gets it! |
Originally Posted by Dejavu
(Post 1489267)
True but as a line holder we still get 95% of pay line guarantee.
Just sucks if u pick up open time and it gets canceled on ur there goes ur time and a half . Happened to me 2 twice last month but what can u do . "But what can u do" I think that's the point Ultralight has been trying to get across... Don't go to work there. |
Originally Posted by Paid2fly
(Post 1489318)
"But what can u do" I think that's the point Ultralight has been trying to get across... Don't go to work there.
Is what I was referencing to . :p |
Originally Posted by Ultralight
(Post 1489231)
It is worth getting hard over. In my opinion its a safety of flight issue. It forces the scenario where there could be a mechanical issue with the aircraft and either pilot knows that if they write it up, it could well result in the flight being canceled. That means loss of up to 4 hours pay credit on an out and back.
Pay credit should never be a deciding factor when making a decision whether to write something up or not. It could also lead to friction in the cockpit because one pilot wants to write something up but the other doesn't because it will result in the flight being canceled, resulting in lost pay credit. That's a breakdown in CRM. More realistically, both pilots agree to write up a discrepancy, the flight gets cancelled and now the whole crew is bummed out because they just got bent over through no fault of there own. To be honest, I briefly flirted with the idea of applying for a direct entry captain position at GoJet. When I discovered that no cancelation pay was their policy I quickly put that idea to bed. Bottom line, no cancelation pay is a safety issue, and the unions should be ashamed of themselves for allowing such a policy. Not just GoJet. Republic has the same cheap ass rule. Its an absolute disgrace, especially considering the pittance of a paycheck regional F.O.'s get to begin with.
Originally Posted by Ultralight
(Post 1489047)
I find it interesting that some RJ pilots fiercely defend their airline like they're family or something. What's wrong with speaking the truth?
In the current environment where almost every regional is hiring, why would you condone anyone accepting a position with one that pays their pilots as little as possible and not even cover their pay when the flight gets canceled? Considering you're a "honey badger" you take offense pretty easily don't you think? Well that's 2 down and how many to go? I'm sure you can find other flaw(s) at other Regional Airlines out there too. Seems like options are getting limited and for a second I thought life at the Regional was going to be wonderful with six figure pay and great pension. bummer :( |
Originally Posted by Ultralight
(Post 1489231)
It is worth getting hard over. In my opinion its a safety of flight issue. It forces the scenario where there could be a mechanical issue with the aircraft and either pilot knows that if they write it up, it could well result in the flight being canceled. That means loss of up to 4 hours pay credit on an out and back.
Pay credit should never be a deciding factor when making a decision whether to write something up or not. It could also lead to friction in the cockpit because one pilot wants to write something up but the other doesn't because it will result in the flight being canceled, resulting in lost pay credit. That's a breakdown in CRM. More realistically, both pilots agree to write up a discrepancy, the flight gets cancelled and now the whole crew is bummed out because they just got bent over through no fault of there own. To be honest, I briefly flirted with the idea of applying for a direct entry captain position at GoJet. When I discovered that no cancelation pay was their policy I quickly put that idea to bed. Bottom line, no cancelation pay is a safety issue, and the unions should be ashamed of themselves for allowing such a policy. Not just GoJet. Republic has the same cheap ass rule. Its an absolute disgrace, especially considering the pittance of a paycheck regional F.O.'s get to begin with. No cancelation pay is the weakest part of our contract. As you may (or may not) know we are in the middle of contract negotiations. Having leg by leg CX pay is at the top of everyone's list. |
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