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09-23-2013 | 07:09 PM
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Pay credit should never be a deciding factor when making a decision whether to write something up or not.
It could also lead to friction in the cockpit because one pilot wants to write something up but the other doesn't because it will result in the flight being canceled, resulting in lost pay credit. That's a breakdown in CRM. More realistically, both pilots agree to write up a discrepancy, the flight gets cancelled and now the whole crew is bummed out because they just got bent over through no fault of there own.
To be honest, I briefly flirted with the idea of applying for a direct entry captain position at GoJet. When I discovered that no cancelation pay was their policy I quickly put that idea to bed.
Bottom line, no cancelation pay is a safety issue, and the unions should be ashamed of themselves for allowing such a policy.
Not just GoJet. Republic has the same cheap ass rule.
Its an absolute disgrace, especially considering the pittance of a paycheck regional F.O.'s get to begin with.
09-23-2013 | 07:44 PM
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It is worth getting hard over. In my opinion its a safety of flight issue. It forces the scenario where there could be a mechanical issue with the aircraft and either pilot knows that if they write it up, it could well result in the flight being canceled. That means loss of up to 4 hours pay credit on an out and back.
Pay credit should never be a deciding factor when making a decision whether to write something up or not.
It could also lead to friction in the cockpit because one pilot wants to write something up but the other doesn't because it will result in the flight being canceled, resulting in lost pay credit. That's a breakdown in CRM. More realistically, both pilots agree to write up a discrepancy, the flight gets cancelled and now the whole crew is bummed out because they just got bent over through no fault of there own.
To be honest, I briefly flirted with the idea of applying for a direct entry captain position at GoJet. When I discovered that no cancelation pay was their policy I quickly put that idea to bed.
Bottom line, no cancelation pay is a safety issue, and the unions should be ashamed of themselves for allowing such a policy.
Not just GoJet. Republic has the same cheap ass rule.
Its an absolute disgrace, especially considering the pittance of a paycheck regional F.O.'s get to begin with.
Pay credit should never be a deciding factor when making a decision whether to write something up or not.
It could also lead to friction in the cockpit because one pilot wants to write something up but the other doesn't because it will result in the flight being canceled, resulting in lost pay credit. That's a breakdown in CRM. More realistically, both pilots agree to write up a discrepancy, the flight gets cancelled and now the whole crew is bummed out because they just got bent over through no fault of there own.
To be honest, I briefly flirted with the idea of applying for a direct entry captain position at GoJet. When I discovered that no cancelation pay was their policy I quickly put that idea to bed.
Bottom line, no cancelation pay is a safety issue, and the unions should be ashamed of themselves for allowing such a policy.
Not just GoJet. Republic has the same cheap ass rule.
Its an absolute disgrace, especially considering the pittance of a paycheck regional F.O.'s get to begin with.
I guess I see where ur coming from .
I just wouldn't fly a plane if it wasn't safe , just to keep 4hrs of pay ,
Never felt that pressure to be force or even have to question it .
Rj flying in the USA sucks period . Can't wait to get back overseas
09-23-2013 | 07:56 PM
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Its not cool, and I hope plenty of people know about it before they send off their resume.
Maybe, just maybe, if enough people turn them down, they will get the message and treat their employees right.
09-23-2013 | 08:17 PM
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Its 4hrs pay if its a one off event. Make it a weekly occurrence and it soon adds up, especially on an aircraft as temperamental as the Q400.
Its not cool, and I hope plenty of people know about it before they send off their resume.
Maybe, just maybe, if enough people turn them down, they will get the message and treat their employees right.
Its not cool, and I hope plenty of people know about it before they send off their resume.
Maybe, just maybe, if enough people turn them down, they will get the message and treat their employees right.
True but as a line holder we still get 95% of pay line guarantee.
Just sucks if u pick up open time and it gets canceled on ur there goes ur time and a half . Happened to me 2 twice last month but what can u do .
09-23-2013 | 10:18 PM
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09-23-2013 | 10:23 PM
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"But what can u do" I think that's the point Ultralight has been trying to get across... Don't go to work there.
09-23-2013 | 10:42 PM
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09-24-2013 | 12:32 AM
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It is worth getting hard over. In my opinion its a safety of flight issue. It forces the scenario where there could be a mechanical issue with the aircraft and either pilot knows that if they write it up, it could well result in the flight being canceled. That means loss of up to 4 hours pay credit on an out and back.
Pay credit should never be a deciding factor when making a decision whether to write something up or not.
It could also lead to friction in the cockpit because one pilot wants to write something up but the other doesn't because it will result in the flight being canceled, resulting in lost pay credit. That's a breakdown in CRM. More realistically, both pilots agree to write up a discrepancy, the flight gets cancelled and now the whole crew is bummed out because they just got bent over through no fault of there own.
To be honest, I briefly flirted with the idea of applying for a direct entry captain position at GoJet. When I discovered that no cancelation pay was their policy I quickly put that idea to bed.
Bottom line, no cancelation pay is a safety issue, and the unions should be ashamed of themselves for allowing such a policy.
Not just GoJet. Republic has the same cheap ass rule.
Its an absolute disgrace, especially considering the pittance of a paycheck regional F.O.'s get to begin with.
Pay credit should never be a deciding factor when making a decision whether to write something up or not.
It could also lead to friction in the cockpit because one pilot wants to write something up but the other doesn't because it will result in the flight being canceled, resulting in lost pay credit. That's a breakdown in CRM. More realistically, both pilots agree to write up a discrepancy, the flight gets cancelled and now the whole crew is bummed out because they just got bent over through no fault of there own.
To be honest, I briefly flirted with the idea of applying for a direct entry captain position at GoJet. When I discovered that no cancelation pay was their policy I quickly put that idea to bed.
Bottom line, no cancelation pay is a safety issue, and the unions should be ashamed of themselves for allowing such a policy.
Not just GoJet. Republic has the same cheap ass rule.
Its an absolute disgrace, especially considering the pittance of a paycheck regional F.O.'s get to begin with.
I find it interesting that some RJ pilots fiercely defend their airline like they're family or something. What's wrong with speaking the truth?
In the current environment where almost every regional is hiring, why would you condone anyone accepting a position with one that pays their pilots as little as possible and not even cover their pay when the flight gets canceled?
Considering you're a "honey badger" you take offense pretty easily don't you think?
In the current environment where almost every regional is hiring, why would you condone anyone accepting a position with one that pays their pilots as little as possible and not even cover their pay when the flight gets canceled?
Considering you're a "honey badger" you take offense pretty easily don't you think?
Well that's 2 down and how many to go? I'm sure you can find other flaw(s) at other Regional Airlines out there too. Seems like options are getting limited and for a second I thought life at the Regional was going to be wonderful with six figure pay and great pension. bummer
09-24-2013 | 03:22 AM
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It is worth getting hard over. In my opinion its a safety of flight issue. It forces the scenario where there could be a mechanical issue with the aircraft and either pilot knows that if they write it up, it could well result in the flight being canceled. That means loss of up to 4 hours pay credit on an out and back.
Pay credit should never be a deciding factor when making a decision whether to write something up or not.
It could also lead to friction in the cockpit because one pilot wants to write something up but the other doesn't because it will result in the flight being canceled, resulting in lost pay credit. That's a breakdown in CRM. More realistically, both pilots agree to write up a discrepancy, the flight gets cancelled and now the whole crew is bummed out because they just got bent over through no fault of there own.
To be honest, I briefly flirted with the idea of applying for a direct entry captain position at GoJet. When I discovered that no cancelation pay was their policy I quickly put that idea to bed.
Bottom line, no cancelation pay is a safety issue, and the unions should be ashamed of themselves for allowing such a policy.
Not just GoJet. Republic has the same cheap ass rule.
Its an absolute disgrace, especially considering the pittance of a paycheck regional F.O.'s get to begin with.
Pay credit should never be a deciding factor when making a decision whether to write something up or not.
It could also lead to friction in the cockpit because one pilot wants to write something up but the other doesn't because it will result in the flight being canceled, resulting in lost pay credit. That's a breakdown in CRM. More realistically, both pilots agree to write up a discrepancy, the flight gets cancelled and now the whole crew is bummed out because they just got bent over through no fault of there own.
To be honest, I briefly flirted with the idea of applying for a direct entry captain position at GoJet. When I discovered that no cancelation pay was their policy I quickly put that idea to bed.
Bottom line, no cancelation pay is a safety issue, and the unions should be ashamed of themselves for allowing such a policy.
Not just GoJet. Republic has the same cheap ass rule.
Its an absolute disgrace, especially considering the pittance of a paycheck regional F.O.'s get to begin with.
No cancelation pay is the weakest part of our contract.
As you may (or may not) know we are in the middle of contract negotiations. Having leg by leg CX pay is at the top of everyone's list.
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