Nai is not only contract but third party as well so nai is starting a flag of convenience situation in the airlines like the ships have now. Everyone touts the contract pay but if the whole industry migrates to a model of planes and certificate reside in Namibia but hub is in Atl your head will spin when us labor law no longer applies

 

US labor laws do not apply to airlines already. For example, we aren't even required to get a 30 min meal break like every other job in America. Overtime for every hour over 40 etc

 

I'd love a well paying job in the US flying airplanes. The chances of that happening are not likely though so I should turn down a better job in the hopes of maybe someday flying for AA, UAL, or DAL? I don't think many people will fall on their sword to protect the majors.

 

Not too sure I'm quite right there with you on those last 3 lines, but I see what you're saying. I can't stomach ALPA after what I've seen and lived, I just can't. When a Union forces you to pay dues and says that they're there to protect you and the same things that they take away later on behalf of others, you completely lose me.

It's up to us then to either rot in an RJ and act like we are believing about that "mainline" carrot or find those higher paying jobs that will provide for our families by kicking our a$$ in gear and knocking on as many doors as it takes until a company is willing to pay a decent wage for what we do, local or foreign, and hopefully before we hit 65.

I'm not relying on ALPA to better my working conditions anymore, they already failed miserably at that. Fool my once...

 

Since my statement is so ignorant, why don't you elaborate?

I get the weekly BS from ALPA and our LEC telling us to do this do that and contribute more and more. I'm sorry if I am that ignorant but I will not give another penny to ALPA. If they want our help, they should step up and be the union, sorry organization, it claims to be.
To answer your question, yes I would like to work in the US for any of the carriers but I still stand by my original comments. You can't blame any of the regional pilots for looking into other options as we are continuously asked to give more concessions, meanwhile record profits are occurring.

 

Mainline is more than happy to take a pay raise in exchange for cuts at the regional level. ALPA will facilitate this as well. Bring on the foreign airlines. Bring on the higher pay, better QOL.

 

There is a problem with this theory, the reason why the salary levels abroad is higher in comparison is because of the small supply, situation that has created a steady increase in salary in the 7 years that I have been on the expat market (for the third time) but the US is still the market around the world that has the biggest supply of experienced pilots living on a lower salary rate because of the bright and visionary idea of separating the pilot groups into two classes...!
Airlines planning to explore the possibility of US bases will have a practically unlimited supply of 8,000+ hour pilots with plenty of jet pic! I believe that the salaries will be in accordance with this reality, if you follow the example of one organization that has done it already, (let me make clear that I have nothing against VA nor it's pilots, my position is based just on numbers) but VA is not paying its A320 pilots what they are paying abroad right? That is the problem that I see, that let's say Air China opens a base in the US and they come in with a salary level that is 40% lower than the 23K net they are paying in China, and they will get inundated with qualified resumes. I honestly don't believe that the introduction of jobs from a foreign carrier based in the US necessarily means that their salary levels will be imported as well, they will offer the salary levels that they know people will accept.

 

this has already been preapproved and on the fast tract to being official. absolutely nothing we as pilots or alpa can do. dont fool yourself, the airlines WANT this to gut the current and lower the future contracts.
stick a fork in us, we r done

 

If that is true why are the major carriers 100% against it.

 

Well said.