If it makes you happy so be it.

So what does this mean? You will be courteous to their faces but then talk about them in the crew room with your buddies?

That's not very..........professional.

I believe Eagle currently has a minimum salary increase of 1.5% a year and that disappears with this agreement. Technically that is a loss for everyone. In 3 years time that is at least a 4.5% loss is compensation.

That's correct. Actually it can go up or down depending the industry. Before BK it was 1.5% regardless. Either way in Bk we decided to split the compensation between FOs and Ca. So if other companies FOs pay goes up, our FOs basically match them and CA stay the same.

The already own us around 3% of pay raises by the Bk TA and whatever difference is made by 2015. So if RAH pay goes up in their contract, basically we will get a % of raise to match them. Because the new industry standard will go up.

Also we should be now at $2.05 of per diem by our previous contract. In bk we agreed to go down to 1.85 for 2 years with $0.05 increases starting in 2015.

In this TA they will be takin $0.05 and stay at 1.80 for 10 years!!! (Thanks again PSA). By 2025 we should be at $2.35 an hour!!! That's $1,800 difference of what we do today per year (based in 300hrs TAFB per month).

These are serious concessions but our dumb pilots, like Btzzz and others yes voters that think they will be out of here in 2 years don't think about it. When I got hired 4 years ago, I said to myself "the industry is moving quickly I might be out of here in 3 years". I'm still around 400 numbers from upgrading. I won't be out of here for at least 4 more years if I'm lucky.

This TA is not about today, is about the future! Our future and everyone else future!!!!

Open your eyes fellow pilots!!! Eagle is not closing, there are not enough pilots out there to cover our flying. If you jump the ship to other regional, then you're doing management a favor. Go back to 1st year pay.

So, get out there guys and vote. Management will do whatever they want regardless of our vote!

well said pilotj3

It seems the fleet plan for you guys is much larger than what they're telling you guys. I was told the real objective is close to 280 total planes.

Didn't they do this back in the 90's? Rip the place down, only to build it back up larger than before.

I'd vote no if I were in your shoes.

Glad to see someone gets it.

280 planes? I am very skeptical we or any other regional could staff that. Very interesting though.

Staffing under the current contract would be impossible but staffing with a real improvement to flow and pay would make it quite easy. It wouldn't appear that real improvement to flow or pay is an option, so therefore staffing would be a huge problem until they come to their senses about what the market would dictate for improved staffing levels.

The turboprop section of the mou is interesting.

Right now we are losing 80 per month, and everyone I know seems to be getting offers at majors and Llcs. Capts and fos. I don't think their plan will work anytime soon here.