tom11011

I don't think its off at all.

Student = Intern
Private = Resident
Commercial = Attending
ATP = Fellow

FLYZERG

Maybe because Allegiant has gained the reputation they deserve and no one is willing to bet their career or life.

RMWRIGHT

i just found an ad for the ctp (the course required to take atp me written after aug 1st) allatps is offering it with training given at higher power aviation. just $4995. im very surprised so inexpensive. 6 hours in sim , 4 hours in ftd and 30 hours ground school given by atp pilot with at least 2 years experience in 121 ops. i expected course to be 10 to 12 grand. by the way still waiting to find out whether canadian atp license holders will be required to take this course or not before taking the atp faa conversion written test. if not, would be a great loop hole for those who have the faa cpl and 1500 hours, , go to canada convert to canadian cpl/ifr/me (its easy) then take the samara/saron written (its their atp test) then the check ride. then take the 40 question atp usa conversion test
and now you have 2 atp licenses for about the price of one and you have bypassed the ctp and save 5 grand !

gloopy

I'd bump those up a bit.

Student = College Freshman
Private = College Sophomore
Commercial = College Junior
ATP = Bachleor's Degree in Biology/Pre-Med that can texhnically be called "doctor".

The rest can be measured in the amount and type of experience.

pagey

The majority will just do the written as part of 121 initial training.

Everyone is blowing this thing out of proportion. The airlines already have training programs ready to go for this.

Now, if you don't want to work at an airline then that is another story.

Broncoav8r

Really? Because a certain DO at a certain company based in the midwest seems to think that since all these people graduating from college have student loans, they surely must have money left over to pay for a training program before they show up for initial...

Beech90

Would this be Gojet?

RMWRIGHT

The majority will just do the written as part of 121 initial training.

Everyone is blowing this thing out of proportion. The airlines already have training programs ready to go for this.

Now, if you don't want to work at an airline then that is another story.


i agree,
i wonder how this will affect foreign students coming to usa for atp license/rating and now have to pay another 5 grand?

8ballfreight

Disclaimer: I didn't think the apt written was broken. Stupid, but not broken.

Airlines will pay for this anyway but lets say that they do get congress to overturn things, kids still can't get flight loans.

Banks have the money and don't plan on loosening the purse until there is a chance they will see a return on investment. Don't be fooled that anything else, the banking melt down caused this pilot pinch. There are a million and one high school kids ready to flood allatpjackwagonsr'us and the like in a heart beat if only they could get the loans.

unitedflyier

If they hadn't cut the pay and benefits for 10 years after 911 they wouldn't be in this predicament now.

This is a management induced problem because they let CFO run companies. Free market let pay rise and more people will become pilots.