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Old 07-29-2014 | 10:42 PM
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I am of the opinion that the regionals will soon drop the requirement for the written and provide the CTP as part of new hire training.

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Old 07-30-2014 | 12:13 AM
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Originally Posted by beech1980
LOL! I wish I was not serious or accurate! Like I said, go tally up all the costs yourself.. I was dumb founded as you are. They hit you up for insurance at the tune of $1300 per semester at Riddle. It keeps adding up.
I'm still in shock man. Who in their right mind would even consider an aviation degree and than go become a pilot. Heck, for that kind of money I'd think you could nearly become a doctor. What a crying shame. Next time I hear a pilot say he has a Riddle degree, I'm gonna buy the guys coffee for him and than slap him in the back of the head.
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Old 07-30-2014 | 02:26 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyingKat
First it is going to be much harder to build that 1500 in the future than it used to be. A lot of those time building jobs have been slowly going away, and regional airlines are working on agreements with 135 carriers and flight schools to send Pro Pilot graduates to these companies to build time.
Flight instructing is still a great and time honored way to build the time. It's how it used to be done. There was a time when 250 hour pilots just were not hired at regional airlines, not all that long ago. In the 90's, regional pilots were coming in with ATPs.

The smart pilot is going to go to college and get an unrelated degree, something with teeth in the real world. Further, this pilot will get most of their certificates and ratings part 61 at the local FBO. The FBO this pilot purchases their ratings from will also likely be the same place that gives the pilot their first job as flight instructor. This is a time honored way of doing this, I don't see where any change needs to occur at all here.

The pilot will need the extra 500 hours or whatever, but in trade he will not have to live with the extreme debt that comes from a program like ERAU.

As far as the ATP written and ATP are concerned, the airlines will supply both with very minor tweaks to their training program.

How Regional Airlines might deal with new ATP written requirements | Airline Pilot Info
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Old 07-30-2014 | 05:16 AM
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Originally Posted by ClarenceOver
Yeah but if the airlines just shelled out 20k for the course and plan to spend another 100k to get you typed in their airplane i dont think they will want you to use a seminole. Nor will a corporate flight department that just spent big bucks to get you your atp. atps are not going to be a dime a dozen after this rule is in full effect.

As pointed out, ATP/Higher Power say their program will cost $4999 and they're making a profit on that figure. And if you think an airline spends 100k training a new hire you need to come down to earth.
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Old 07-30-2014 | 06:44 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyingKat
Or you could take that money and spend it on a medical degree or spend half of the money for a top flight MBA program and you'll be making what that widebody captain makes at age 30.

Now does it look like a good investment?
That's kind of what I was getting at. Remember that's just for a CHANCE at someday getting that Captain seat.

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I am not a cfi or military and i havn't spent a penny on aviation building my time.
Flying Daddy's airplane is very cost effective.

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As pointed out, ATP/Higher Power say their program will cost $4999 and they're making a profit on that figure. And if you think an airline spends 100k training a new hire you need to come down to earth.
Which is just another example of why C.O. has no clue about the pilot PROFESSION.
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Old 07-30-2014 | 07:56 AM
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Originally Posted by blaine
Heck, for that kind of money I'd think you could nearly become a doctor.
I could have become a doctor too if it wasn't for that science thing...
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Old 07-30-2014 | 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Std Deviation
I could have become a doctor too if it wasn't for that science thing...
Or the grades thing. Or the testing (GRE/MEDCAT) thing. Or the carving up cadavers thing.

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Old 07-30-2014 | 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Packrat
Or the grades thing. Or the testing (GRE/MEDCAT) thing. Or the carving up cadavers thing.

Or the residency thing. Older brother who is an MD had a few 48-hour and many 24-hour stretches without sleep during his four-year residency. And his kid would point at the hospital and say "That's where Daddy lives!"
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Old 07-30-2014 | 12:04 PM
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I wonder if this has anything to do with the FAA change of heart:

Boeing Announces Ab Initio Pilot Training - AVweb flash Article
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Old 07-30-2014 | 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Flying Ninja
I wonder if this has anything to do with the FAA change of heart:

Boeing Announces Ab Initio Pilot Training - AVweb flash Article
Conveniently missing is who is going to pay for the $100,000-150,000 program.
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