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Old 08-12-2014 | 07:09 AM
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Right now, your beloved major airlines are turning away or ignoring high time RJ Captains and hiring low time Captains and even FOs who beg at job fairs, interned, networked well, performed community service, or met the right demographics. So spare us your opinion of how high the standards are, gramps. You are clueless.
I think part of the problem, whether deserved or not, is the belief that the senior captains may be a CRM issue. Case in point, the top 200 or so captains at ASA were captains when I was a new hire. Now they would be my FO at Delta. I know a few who would have an issue with that! Also, there were a few who carried a certain "attitude" into the interview which may have poisoned the well for their compatriots.
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Old 08-12-2014 | 07:18 AM
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I think part of the problem, whether deserved or not, is the belief that the senior captains may be a CRM issue. Case in point, the top 200 or so captains at ASA were captains when I was a new hire. Now they would be my FO at Delta. I know a few who would have an issue with that! Also, there were a few who carried a certain "attitude" into the interview which may have poisoned the well for their compatriots.
It's not just the top 200. One of the LEC 44 reps told me directly that DAL isn't interested in anyone over 7000 hours TT or 3000 hours PIC. That's pretty much everyone who's been here over 12 years. They believe we are untrainable? I think that's grossly unfair since just a few years ago that was a competitive minimum time. But that's what happens when you take pilots out of the hiring process and leave it up to a bunch of hipsters with HR degrees. and the ultimate irony is that these high time RJ pilots are fine to fly Delta passengers in a CRJ900 with Delta's logo, yet unqualified to fly them in a 717 with 20 more seats...
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Old 08-12-2014 | 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Captain Tony
They believe we are untrainable?
They probably believe you are too set in your ways, not untrainable.
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Old 08-12-2014 | 07:58 AM
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It's not just the top 200. One of the LEC 44 reps told me directly that DAL isn't interested in anyone over 7000 hours TT or 3000 hours PIC. That's pretty much everyone who's been here over 12 years. They believe we are untrainable? I think that's grossly unfair since just a few years ago that was a competitive minimum time. But that's what happens when you take pilots out of the hiring process and leave it up to a bunch of hipsters with HR degrees. and the ultimate irony is that these high time RJ pilots are fine to fly Delta passengers in a CRJ900 with Delta's logo, yet unqualified to fly them in a 717 with 20 more seats...
I guess mainline guys should just stay on their aircraft type if they have been on it 10 years or so......
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Old 08-12-2014 | 08:18 AM
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Guys, just ignore toomanyrjs. He's just upset that he works at a subsidiary of a regional holding corporation. Don't know if they've changed that yet...

But, man, Frontier guys, major pilots? haha! Bet they wish they'd been stapled to Southwest now.

Frontier reminds me of those places that guys go when they can't get hired anywhere else. Kinda like regionals...
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Old 08-12-2014 | 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Captain Tony
It's not just the top 200. One of the LEC 44 reps told me directly that DAL isn't interested in anyone over 7000 hours TT or 3000 hours PIC. That's pretty much everyone who's been here over 12 years. They believe we are untrainable? I think that's grossly unfair since just a few years ago that was a competitive minimum time. But that's what happens when you take pilots out of the hiring process and leave it up to a bunch of hipsters with HR degrees. and the ultimate irony is that these high time RJ pilots are fine to fly Delta passengers in a CRJ900 with Delta's logo, yet unqualified to fly them in a 717 with 20 more seats...
Just flew with a Captain at XJT(ASA) that has a CJO with US Airways(AA) and a Delta Interview this week. He had over 3000 TPIC with only one internal at Delta. Not military, intern, minority etc. IMO when guys are getting more than one Legacy call times are changing. Quite a ways to go before much more "normal" people start getting cold called but non the less times are changing IMHO. Just my two cents.

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Old 08-12-2014 | 08:44 AM
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Come on they must have been regional pilots before. No real mainline pilot would act like that.
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Old 08-12-2014 | 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Captain Tony
It's not just the top 200. One of the LEC 44 reps told me directly that DAL isn't interested in anyone over 7000 hours TT or 3000 hours PIC. ...
Yeah, I got a pretty good idea who that might be, but I still have to throw the BS flag on that one. Guys are getting hired with more than that time right now. What is happening though, is if you work for a DCI carrier, Delta already knows who has issues and or problems with the CPs and the Training Dept. If the person is a problem child, they know and will pass.
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Old 08-13-2014 | 05:03 AM
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probably because they have too with the supply drying up but make no mistake about it - over 40 and "too much" pic is the kiss of death at DAL
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Old 08-13-2014 | 05:49 AM
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What is happening though, is if you work for a DCI carrier, Delta already knows who has issues and or problems with the CPs and the Training Dept. If the person is a problem child, they know and will pass.
Nice conspiracy theory. Of course, that would be illegal, and exchanging any employee information beyond PRIA would open everyone involved to lawsuits, but fine, if you think so...
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